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Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by antonymoose »

j45 wrote: post #135

It's important to separate the spirit of this from the spirits of it. Pubs as social gathering places are critical to exist and keep alive. Drinking neurotoxins that have a lot of destruction and damage, maybe not so much. In the UK pubs are extremely different as well than the US. This site is for the UK, since it's asking for a postal code, among other signs. The UK also I believe has last call at 11 PM, which help…

Funny enough I worked with an old timer back in Charleston, SC which historically had no regulated last call. During his drinking years they passed a law requiring an 0200 closing time which, as he put it, was a terrible idea because it put all the drunks out on the street at the same time causing joint chaos. In his view having no official close meant folks naturally filtered out over time as they were sated. Seems any hard stop causes trouble?

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by crazygringo »

bodge5000 wrote: post #117
crazygringo wrote: post #49

Would be much more helpful if it indicated literally anywhere on the homepage that this was specific to the UK. Being a .com as opposed to a .co.uk, you can't even tell from the domain.

There are plenty of US sites that make no mention of being US specific, I feel like this is well deserved

Due to the history of the internet, anything ".com" should be assumed to be US-specific if not obviously global, just like anything ".co.uk" should be assumed to be UK-specific if not obviously global.

If you use a .com for something that is specific to a country/region that is not the US, the onus is on you to clarify. That's the problem here. If you're not going to make it ".uk", then you should be making that obvious on the homepage.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by alexpotato »

philo23 wrote: post #125

Kinda meta, but this is the first time in a long time where I've put only the first half of my postcode in expecting it not to work and been surprised. Most of these "find your nearest XYZ" site require the full postcode which is just unnecessary unless you're looking for a fairly precise location. A full postcode can narrow your location down to an individual street, so its nice not to give too much away if you can.…

I lived in SW1 many years ago and was surprised to learn, from this website, that SW goes all the way out to SW19!

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by prmoustache »

9JollyOtter wrote: post #17
QuercusMax wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I have NO clue what this site is even about.

It is a "use it or lose it" style campaign by the looks of it. Lots of Pubs in the UK are closing down in recent years. Pubs have traditionally been a big part of socialising in the UK. I don't drink anymore so I don't bother unless I am having a pub lunch on a Friday.

Can't you drink non-alcoholic beverage? If the point is socialising, alcohol is not a requirement.

I know a lot of bars in my area also are places to play board games nowadays.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by prmoustache »

crazygringo wrote: post #139
ikr678 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that as a english speaking non american, this happens literally all the time with ecommerce? It's not until I get to checkout I realise they do not ship to my country or want to deal with me.

International shipping is an entirely different subject. You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise indicated, and that you'll need to check shipping policies. Just like as an American, when I go to a .co.uk ecommerce site, I have to check whether they ship to the US.

> You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise

Why?

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by alexfoo »

crazygringo wrote: post #85
alexfoo wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I'd say that most people in the UK who would be interested in the contents of this site are aware of the context and know what phrases like "rates increases" actually mean. It's been in the news quite a bit over the years since the pandemic. Not every site has to provide an ELI5.

The homepage doesn't even say it's about the UK. For a generic ".com" domain that isn't American, it's generally a good idea to yes, have a kind of minimal hint that tells you at least which country it's about, and at least a single link you can follow to get the broader context. I'm following a link to it on HN. When I get there, I have zero context. Visitors to your site can come from anywhere, so it's generally co…

> For a generic ".com" domain that isn't American, it's generally a good idea to yes, have a kind of minimal hint that tells you at least which country it's about, and at least a single link you can follow to get the broader context.

Umm, I take it you didn't click the "About" link at the top right of the page. That gives you some of that context and names the countries involved in the first full sentence.

Alternatively clicking on the "Map" link should give a sizable proportion of people a big hint about which countries it involves. Three seconds of scrolling out on the map makes it obvious.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by prmoustache »

crazygringo wrote: post #140
wat10000 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People only struggle because of a self-centered view that everything is supposed to be for them, and things that aren't for them are a weird exception. A reasonable person will realize that the fact that they don't understand any of what it's talking about means they're not the target audience, and move on (or poke around out of curiosity).

It's self-centered to want to communicate well? It's just basic communications skills, and honestly decency , to describe what a thing is and who it's for. Maybe someone who isn't the target audience still wants to learn about the thing? Which this site provides no way of doing . That's the problem. Why choose to be inaccessible like that, when it's so easy to add a couple of works and links? > or poke around out of…

> it's self-centered to want to communicate well? > > It's just basic communications skills, and honestly decency, to describe what a thing is and who it's for

What is the main country where dying pubs is such a big subject?

For f**ks sake I am not from UK yet it is easy to understand what it is all about from context and language. And I wasn't even aware of that tax change.

Pure US arrogance.

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by sefrost »

tialaramex wrote: post #114
sefrost wrote: post #18

Wow a fantastic independent pub near where I used to live in London is seeing its rateable value go up 480%! This website really puts the headlines in to a nice local perspective. It seems like the taxes only go up while the services get worse in the UK, although I’ve been away for 5 years now so maybe things improved.

> seeing its rateable value go up 480%! Rateable value is based on what the market prices would be to rent that space. So, somebody is doing nicely apparently.

But if the landlord owns the pub (rare in the UK I know), but I believe it’s the case in this instance, then what are they getting from unrealised property price gains?

Re: Find a pub that needs you

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Post by crazygringo »

prmoustache wrote: post #146
crazygringo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

International shipping is an entirely different subject. You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise indicated, and that you'll need to check shipping policies. Just like as an American, when I go to a .co.uk ecommerce site, I have to check whether they ship to the US.

> You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise Why?

Because the internet was invented in America so it's the only country where a country suffix was never used from the start of its popularity.

I'm not saying this is good or bad or justified or not, just saying what the conventions are.

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