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GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by saidnooneever »

grayhatter wrote: post #11

> it is not okay to consider that this labor fell from the sky and is a gift, and that the people/person behind are just doing it for their own enjoyments. I am. I enjoy making things, and it's even better when others enjoy them. Just because you have expectations that you should be compensated for everything line of code you write; doesn't make it ubiquitous, nor should your expectations be considered the default. I…

thanks grayhatter. well said. been programming for 20+ years never earned a dime from it dont want it. its a silly assumption that everyone's motivation is money. this is very far from the truth.

Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

No idea why this has got the traction it has. Absurd and poorly thought through. It sounds like you don’t like building open source software, so stop doing it. Don’t write a blog post whining about the cage you have shut yourself in. Absolute martyr complex.

Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by nickff »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #136
nickff wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can it really be a 'hotbed' if there is no demand (or even maybe awareness) of the works? That just seems like a hobby done for selfish reasons.

Quoting GGGP: >There are many many creative, caring people that are motivated to create things or care for each other for the sake of it, not for some financial reward. Imagine the incredible programs, websites, games, crafts, artworks, animations, performances, literature, journalism, hobby clubs, support groups, community organizations that would spring into existence if we all just had more bandwidth for them whil…

I have no problem with people doing whatever they want, but if nobody else values it, there’s no ‘contribution’ to society, art, or anything else.

Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by nickff »

tcfhgj wrote: post #133
nickff wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems unlikely that the most motivated people will take up UBI; the most likely UBI recipients are those who are marginally employed, and likely marginally motivated.

did you mean to write the opposite of what you wrote?

Accidentally posted in the middle of an edit; corrected now, thanks.

Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by ericmay »

_ache_ wrote: post #156
ericmay wrote: post #130

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Instead of forcing Github to force users to pay a fee to support OSS, why don't OSS maintainers just charge for their work? Then that requires 0 coercion and those who feel undervalued for their work/projects can be compensated as the market dictates the value of their projects. There are a lot of dumb and even disagreeable open source projects. Why should someone be de facto forced to fund those projects? It's like…

You just read the title don't you? > GitHub should charge every org $1 more per user per month It's about org, not about every single person using Github. The idea is basic and should have been written in the article. When a contributor release FOSS, it's fair to compensate if you business rely on it. A contributor wouldn't like a free for personal use either. The ideal license is the Unreal one free for « Individual…

> When a contributor release FOSS, it's fair to compensate if you business rely on it.

Nope.

Put it in the license, sell the software, or work for free, but stop complaining about it.

It's nice if businesses who benefit from specific software packages want to pay or show support, but it's not nice to release something "for free" but then jump on a moral grandstand and demand everyone pay so you can feel good about your ideology at the expense of everyone else.

> The ideal license is the Unreal one free for « Individuals and small businesses (with less than $1 million USD in annual gross revenue)

Then make that your license?

Re: GitHub should charge everyone $1 more per month to fund open source

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Post by anonymous908213 »

nickff wrote: post #163
anonymous908213 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting GGGP: >There are many many creative, caring people that are motivated to create things or care for each other for the sake of it, not for some financial reward. Imagine the incredible programs, websites, games, crafts, artworks, animations, performances, literature, journalism, hobby clubs, support groups, community organizations that would spring into existence if we all just had more bandwidth for them whil…

I have no problem with people doing whatever they want, but if nobody else values it, there’s no ‘contribution’ to society, art, or anything else.

I think that's an unbelievably cynical worldview, one I don't agree with at all, but within that view: what of the things people value, but which they do not pay for? Much of the tech of the world is built on the free labour of FOSS developers. Are they not contributing to society because they are not compensated for their contributions?
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