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Gleam is nice. However it is still very lacking in the stdlib. You will need lots of dependencies to build something usable. I kind of wish Gleam could target something like Go, then you would have the option to go native without a "heavy" VM like the BEAM.
I'm now working on a real world legacy Elixir project in my day job and man oh man do I miss well defined types. Coming from Go, it makes a huge difference to my productivity when I'm able to click through fields and find usages of things, which comes down to the excellence of the Go language server. I know that the Elixir language server can infer some of this, but the language server in my experience is very fickle…
Do the big updates to Elixir's type system help at all? afaik the most recent update added a huge amount of coverage that should extend to older code automatically.
Coming from Elixir, I gave Gleam a try for a couple of days over the holidays. Reasons I decided not to pursue: - No ad-hoc polymorphism (apart from function overloading IIRC) means no standard way of defining how things work. There are not many conventions yet in place so you won’t know if your library supports eg JSON deserialization for its types - Coupled with a lack of macros, this means you have to implement ev…
I'm a bit torn on ad-hoc polymorphism. You can definitely do cool things with it. But, as others have pointed out, it does reduce type safety: https://cs-syd.eu/posts/2023-08-25-ad-hoc-polymorphism-erode...
But at least ad hoc polymorphism lets you search for all instances of that business logic easily.
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Raku looks sweet, but what is the point of this comparison? :)
I love coding in Raku - and I am sure that Gleam is nice too. But I get the feeling that Raku is underappreciated / dismissed by many due to the perl5 / perl6 history. So my thinking is, when I see a new language showcase an example on their website, presumably a carefully chosen snippet that showcases their language at its best, I like to see how Raku compares to that. You know the take-aways from the comparison are…
I am more excited about making things rather than fetishizing about some language paradigms so, I acknowledge that Gleam just isn't for me. I did give me the insight that for me, it might be the best to stick with the common denominator languages for the foreseeable future.
I am in love with Gleam! As a young computer science student, I found that Gleam brought back the joy of programming just when I felt like I was seriously burning out. I was never a fan of functional programming languages. I had tried other BEAM languages like Elixir and Erlang before, but Gleam is the one I’ve enjoyed the most :)
One of programming languages with political agenda.
The type of people complaining about this are usually the people you don't want in your community to begin with, so I doubt Gleam is missing out here.