WiFi Halow is a longer range protocol (still probably not long enough). But something like this can get people connected: https://openmanet.net
Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
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Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#12HAM radio is your best option.
What do you think amateur radio does? Why do you think that broadcasting your location, and that you're looking to get information from somewhere other than the approved sources will end up in anything other than tragedy? What information do you think could reliably be provided with amateur radio in a situation like this?
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#13Old fashioned phone trees can be really useful IMHO OP. We used them when I worked in a school. If there was winter weather, you'd call say, everyone with a last name from A to G in the staff directory, someone else calls G to K, and so on and so forth.
You can combine the phone tree with literal runners -- so basically, someone takes their burner and calls suburbs A,B,C and D and then the runners go out and pass the word about the protest or action.
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#14V.92 dial-up. Slow and expensive, but it's Internet access.
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#15Starlink and/or BGAN/satellite phones.
starlink was explictly blocked there. they are jamming gps which is needed for it
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
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#17Problem is that most methods involve making your location known openly. The Dark Forest book of the Remembrance of the Earth Past explains why it is not a good idea to do so in the current circumstances
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#18HAM radio is your best option.
What do you think amateur radio does? Why do you think that broadcasting your location, and that you're looking to get information from somewhere other than the approved sources will end up in anything other than tragedy? What information do you think could reliably be provided with amateur radio in a situation like this?
The OP wanted a way to bypass a internet shutdown, not a perfect solution.
And you know, I'm fairly sure being able to talk to the outside world makes it so that you can at least get information out to others.
Pray tell, what methods do YOU have to bypass a shutdown with privacy and no reliance on ISP and resistant to jamming?
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#19Old fashioned phone trees can be really useful IMHO OP. We used them when I worked in a school. If there was winter weather, you'd call say, everyone with a last name from A to G in the staff directory, someone else calls G to K, and so on and so forth. You can combine the phone tree with literal runners -- so basically, someone takes their burner and calls suburbs A,B,C and D and then the runners go out and pass the…
Radio stations too. The US civil rights movement sometimes used radio DJs to call people out for protests.
Re: Ask HN: Iran's 120h internet shutdown, phones back. How to stay resilient?
#20For dense areas, mesh applications like BitChat (Jack Dorsey) could bypass the need for a network with p2p bluetooth mesh networks. And works with existing devices, vs something like meshtastic which needs an installed base (afaik).