Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
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Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#2A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here.
And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underestimated risk vector.
But on the other hand, I'm pragmatic (some might say cynical?), and I'm just left here thinking "what is Signal trying to sell us?"
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
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Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#4A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
>what is Signal trying to sell us?
This: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxi...
Great timing! :^)
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#5A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
> But on the other hand, I'm pragmatic (some might say cynical?), and I'm just left here thinking "what is Signal trying to sell us?"
A messaging app? I'm struggling to come up with a potential conflict of interest here unless they have a wild pivot coming up.
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#6A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
>what is Signal trying to sell us? This: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxi... Great timing! :^)
Moxie left Signal four years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59937614
> Great timing! :^)
And Meredith has been banging this drum for about a year already, well before Moxie's new venture was announced.
https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/07/signal-president-meredith-...
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#7A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
>what is Signal trying to sell us? This: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxi... Great timing! :^)
Follow the money
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#8A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
>what is Signal trying to sell us? This: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxi... Great timing! :^)
Signal doesn’t have anything to do with Confer besides sharing a founder (who is no longer involved at Signal)
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#9A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
coming from the fact that this was a talk held at #39c3, maybe, just maybe, this was not about selling anything at all?!
i feel like that might be hard to grasp for some HN users.
Re: Signal leaders warn agentic AI is an insecure, unreliable surveillance risk
#10A large percentage of my work is peripheral to info security (ISO 27001, CMMC, SOC 2), and I've been building internet companies and software since the 90's (so I have a technical background as well), which makes me think that I'm qualified to have an opinion here. And I completely agree that LLMs (the way they have been rolled out for most companies, and how I've witnessed them being used) are an incredibly underest…
> But on the other hand, I'm pragmatic (some might say cynical?), and I'm just left here thinking "what is Signal trying to sell us?" A messaging app? I'm struggling to come up with a potential conflict of interest here unless they have a wild pivot coming up.
I didn't mean to imply a conflict of interest, I'm wondering what product or service offering (or maybe feature on their messaging app) prompted this.
No other tech (major) leaders are saying the quiet parts out loud right, about the efficacy, cost to build and operate or security and privacy nightmares created by the way we have adopted LLMs.