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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by renewiltord »

embedding-shape wrote: post #71
WmWsjA6B29B4nfk wrote: post #63

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If you are planning anyway to break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software, why even bother paying something for the privilege? Just get it for free, surely it has to be available cracked

> break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software We're all (mostly/some) software people here, you don't need to use terms established by the "anti-piracy" firms to make your point, no one is "stealing" anything here, even if they were getting it for free from TPB or whatever.

Indeed. But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now. AI firms will make the whole thing obsolete while luddites cry about “stealing from artists” and stuff like that.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by rstupek »

anticorporate wrote: post #103
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #52

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It’s cheap enough it’s not enough to fund development of Final Cut but also not enough money to bother spending time on it. Find it odd personally, just offering them free to keep hardware makes more sense than trying to push a tiny subscription revenue number.

It's the problem that the whole industry is facing - the current generation of hardware is sufficient that hardware refreshes will continue to decline, and companies that want to keep milking us for money regularly need to find a new way to do it.

I hate subscriptions as much as the next person but how would you pay for continued development of software? Do you say a person can continue to run version X forever but if they want a new version they pay for it?

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by dylan604 »

wrs wrote: post #233
dylan604 wrote: post #211

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So what about next year when all of the apps receive updates/upgrades? Will the paid-in-full versions receive the upgrade for free, or will they have upgrade prices? I remember the days of Adobe's annual version upgrades, and they were at least $99 per app. Using that as the basis, the Adobe subscription plan is not more expensive that just broken up into 12 payments. People that kept running v4 to avoid the upgrade…

These apps have provided free updates after initial purchase for many years already. It would be big news if that stopped.

That is definitely a break from the old Adobe model

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by NBJack »

jasoneckert wrote: post #51
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

For now. Let's not forget MS Office had a period like that as well. I give it five years max.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by qingcharles »

bombcar wrote: post #221
Forgeties79 wrote: post #212

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It lacks a lot more than flashy social media features - and given their biggest driver in the 2010’s was arguably YouTubers, they actually need more robust social media features. For starters, they just added voice isolation what? A year ago? That has been bog-standard for resolve and premiere for years now. The audio tools in general are still very subpar. I used it professionally from 2011-2020 or so. Around 2020 t…

Based on revenue estimates, if Apple wanted to be competitive here, they could buy Blackmagic for a billion or so ...

It's certainly interesting that Apple have been pushing Blackmagic's products. They practically rely on Blackmagic software for all their demos when they release some new bit of hardware. They totally conceded on the camera app, for instance.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by larkost »

dylan604 wrote: post #211
jasoneckert wrote: post #51

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The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

So what about next year when all of the apps receive updates/upgrades? Will the paid-in-full versions receive the upgrade for free, or will they have upgrade prices? I remember the days of Adobe's annual version upgrades, and they were at least $99 per app. Using that as the basis, the Adobe subscription plan is not more expensive that just broken up into 12 payments. People that kept running v4 to avoid the upgrade…

These are being sold on Apple's AppStore, and there the model is that you get all of the updates for that App. Of course there is the work-around that some apps use, which is to create a new App (i.e.: MyApp vs MyApp2), which Apple could do at some point in the future.

The best one to watch at the moment is if Pixelmater Pro license holders from before it was bought by Apple get access to any of the new improvements.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by qingcharles »

yardie wrote: post #50
prodigycorp wrote: post #45

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time to dust off that 20 year old edu email address. with these discounts, college has paid for itself!

I finally had to give mine up. Needed to reset the password which required a trip to 4HELP office and I live halfway around the globe now. But the kiddo will be starting college soon so I can mooch off their edu email address.

Ah, I've been mooching off an old library card for years to rent books for my Kindle. Finally got an email saying "Just pop into your local branch to renew this year." Ah...

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by smith7018 »

handsclean wrote: post #240
embedding-shape wrote: post #64

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It's pretty clever that they keep the "pay one time" option still alive while announcing the availability of subscription, so anyone who says "Boo, not you too Apple" can easily be shut down with "You still have the option to buy it!" instead of leaving those critics without answers. Of course, they'll eventually remove the option to buy the software by paying once, I think everyone can see the writing on the wall, b…

The other thing that’s going to go away is purchasing only what you need. I want exactly one of these apps, I bet virtually nobody uses all of them, and yet the suckers are going to be telling us that being made to buy stuff we don’t want or use is “more value”.

> and yet the suckers are going to be telling us that being made to buy stuff we don’t want or use is “more value”.

You're making up an individual to get mad at for no reason.

> The other thing that’s going to go away is purchasing only what you need

There is no proof of this. So you're making up a situation to get mad at for no reason.

> I want exactly one of these apps

Perfect, Apple lets you buy the one app you want for a reasonable price! So what's the issue?

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by 12345hn6789 »

cons0le wrote: post #139
guestbest wrote: post #113

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It sounds like internally it’s a checklist item they have to mention everywhere.

Yep, it's not trolling, it's just them doing the job. A well paid lawyer will defend a client even if they're guilty

A well paid lawyer defending a guilty client is upholding the Justice system. Every man has a right to a fair trial.

Apple wasting years of everyones time on bad faith UX design

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by embedding-shape »

renewiltord wrote: post #241
embedding-shape wrote: post #71

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> break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software We're all (mostly/some) software people here, you don't need to use terms established by the "anti-piracy" firms to make your point, no one is "stealing" anything here, even if they were getting it for free from TPB or whatever.

Indeed. But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now. AI firms will make the whole thing obsolete while luddites cry about “stealing from artists” and stuff like that.

> But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now

Seen it in media for decades at this point, which makes sense, most people can't tell up from down.

What's sad is hearing those things echoed here of all places, a community for hackers, and people are repeating the words of the MPAA.

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