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What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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Re: What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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My electric bill was up 35% year over year from 2024 to 2025 - only two of us live here and there were no infra changes or new appliances. I really need a solar solution but I feel so far out of my wheelhouse.

I had a good experience using EnergySage, a free marketplace that sources competitive detailed bids - it just needs your address and electric bill.

Re: What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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The US clean energy tax credit is only available for equipment installed on or before Dec 31, 2025 https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/residential-clean-ene... As a result, more used solar should become available on ebay. I'm excited to see what I can do on a shoe string budget.

Battery storage tax credit (30%) runs through 2032, must have at least 3kwh capacity. IRS Form 5695.

https://www.energystar.gov/about/federal-tax-credits/battery...

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> Battery prices are getting really low, if you're willing to do some DIY. Willing and allowed. In some countries it can only be done by certified electricians.

UK considerations: must be at least signed off by an approved electrician ("Part P" regulations), and for any situations involving subsidy needs to be MCS approved as well. https://mcscertified.com/

Surely it only needs to be signed off if you intend to sell the property with them or sell excess back to the grid. If youre just using the batteries how is anyone going to know?

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It's high but it really depends on your lifestyle and appliances. If you have a heat pump water heater and heat pump based floor heating you'll use 1/4th of the energy as the same house with resistive water/floor heating. A house which barely passed regulation from 2010 will consume 5-10x the energy of a certified passive house. etc. That being said I think you have to draw the line somewhere. I'd much rather have in…

>heatpumps and other gimmicks Anecdotally, two of the smartest people I know love heat pumps—doesn’t Technology Connections too? Was probably this: Heat Pumps: the Future of Home Heating https://youtube.com/watch?v=7J52mDjZzto

It depends where you live, where you get your electricity from, for how much, &c. It's an amazing tech don't get me wrong, and of course youtube tech nerds love these kind of things, no surprise here, I just don't think it's the silver bullet everybody imagine it is.

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Who spends $50K on heat pumps? They're not anywhere near that expensive.

I'm talking about geothermal water/water installs for central heating. No one is heating their place with air/air heat pumps besides americans who haven't figured out that heating spaces via air is shit tier in term of comfort and efficiency

Having one place to handle humidity, temperature, and exchange of fresh air makes ductwork the king of comfort and efficiency.

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Good analysis. And kudos to the author for saving money. But still 21.6MWh per year excluding solar production seems too high for a household. I use electric heating and drive an electric vehicle, and my household annual energy consumption is about one fifth of that.

It's high but it really depends on your lifestyle and appliances. If you have a heat pump water heater and heat pump based floor heating you'll use 1/4th of the energy as the same house with resistive water/floor heating. A house which barely passed regulation from 2010 will consume 5-10x the energy of a certified passive house. etc. That being said I think you have to draw the line somewhere. I'd much rather have in…

Heat pumps aren't particularly expensive though and they can provide cooling.

Re: What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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Where I am in California, there's a $30+/mo charge to connect to the grid, and the largest savings from a battery was being able to disconnect from the grid. There's lots of time I have excess power generation when I could give to the power grid, if I were connected, but I would have to pay extra to do so, so the potential goes unused.

Re: What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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Good analysis. And kudos to the author for saving money. But still 21.6MWh per year excluding solar production seems too high for a household. I use electric heating and drive an electric vehicle, and my household annual energy consumption is about one fifth of that.

Their total household usage was actually ~17.3 MWh depending on what data source you're using for their usage. Given 6 MWh of exports with only 3.2 MWh of total solar production, they are cycling their powerwall to get paid for the fact that their off-peak rate is half the price of their peak export tariff rate which is inflating the number you're looking at.

That is still an enormous amount of electricity for a single family to consume.

Re: What a year of solar and batteries saved us in 2025

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Heatpumps are not a gimmick - they're an excellent technology with lots of efficient and effective uses :)

Overly complex and fragile in the long run, the savings are meaningless if you're already self sufficient. I'd much rather spend the money in insulation and self sufficiency than these voodoo appliances. That's my reasoning my new build house with plenty of land. In other scenarios it might be more beneficial to go for them.

Heat pumps are no more fragile than air conditioners.

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UK considerations: must be at least signed off by an approved electrician ("Part P" regulations), and for any situations involving subsidy needs to be MCS approved as well. https://mcscertified.com/

Surely it only needs to be signed off if you intend to sell the property with them or sell excess back to the grid. If youre just using the batteries how is anyone going to know?

shrug if you can rely on nobody noticing, or non-enforcement, sure, but it is actually a criminal offence not just an administrative requirement.
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