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The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

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Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

#12

This is how you govern from a position of unpopularity. The government knows they’re on the wrong side of many issues, to the point they know they can’t win an open debate. So media control, regulation by enforcement, and institutional control becomes the focus of effort.

Also never look at what current government is going to do with the framework, but what future much worse government could use it for.

Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

#13

This is how you govern from a position of unpopularity. The government knows they’re on the wrong side of many issues, to the point they know they can’t win an open debate. So media control, regulation by enforcement, and institutional control becomes the focus of effort.

This has been ongoing for a long time, its not at all specific to this government.

Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

#14
What’s unsettling here isn’t any single policy, but the convergence: predictive policing, protest restrictions, and administrative punishments all justified as “risk management.” Even if each tool seems narrow, together they normalize acting on suspicion rather than action, which quietly lowers the bar for dissent.

Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

#16

Isn't Minority Report a documentary about why this doesn't work?

I mean technically a lot of countries already have laws against conspiracy to murder, without doing the actual murder bit. And we are broadly ok with this because it makes a lot of sense.

Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

#18
I wonder at what point these countries will loose any moral ground against the likes of Russia, China etc.

Up until this point it was mostly that they would gladly fuck the other countries up but treated their own people way better than the other camp. But this difference is disappearing.

Of course there is always North Korea and other totally fucked up regimes they could use to compare and look white and fluffy

Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

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This is how you govern from a position of unpopularity. The government knows they’re on the wrong side of many issues, to the point they know they can’t win an open debate. So media control, regulation by enforcement, and institutional control becomes the focus of effort.

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Re: The UK is shaping a future of precrime and dissent management (2025)

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post #16

Isn't Minority Report a documentary about why this doesn't work?

I mean technically a lot of countries already have laws against conspiracy to murder, without doing the actual murder bit. And we are broadly ok with this because it makes a lot of sense.

That generally still takes the person taking some sort of action in furtherance of that plan, not just thinking it.
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