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You can’t easily snapshot the current state of an OS and restore to that state like with git.
At least on macOS, an OS snapshot is a thing [1]; I suspect Cowork will mostly run in a sandbox, which Claude Code does now. [1]: https://www.cleverfiles.com/help/apfs-snapshots.html
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Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#152It's so important to remember that unlike code which can be reverted - most file system and application operations cannot. There's no sandboxing snapshot in revision history, rollbacks, or anything. I expect to see many stories from parents, non-technical colleagues, and students who irreparably ruined their computer. Edit: most comments are focused on pointing out that version control & file system snapshot exists:…
Cars have plenty of horror stories associated with them, but convenience keeps most people happily driving everyday without a second thought.
Google can quarantine your life with an account ban, but plenty of people still use gmail for everything despite the stories.
So even if Claude cowork can go off the rails and turn your digital life upside down, as long as the stories are just online or "friend of a friend of a friend", people won't care much.
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Beachball of death on “Starting Claude’s workspace” on the Cowork tab. Force quit and relaunch, and Claude reopens on the Cowork tab, again hanging with the beachball of death on “Starting Claude’s workspace”. Deleting vm_bundles lets me open Claude Desktop and switch tabs. Then it hangs again, I delete vm_bundles again, and open it again. This time it opens on the Chat tab and I know not to click the Cowork tab...
Can you submit feedback and attach your logs when asked?
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#154It's so important to remember that unlike code which can be reverted - most file system and application operations cannot. There's no sandboxing snapshot in revision history, rollbacks, or anything. I expect to see many stories from parents, non-technical colleagues, and students who irreparably ruined their computer. Edit: most comments are focused on pointing out that version control & file system snapshot exists:…
So the future is NixOS for non-technical people?
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#155Isn't this just a UI over Claude Code? For most people, using the terminal means you could switch to many different coding CLIs and not be locked into just Claude.
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Q: What would prevent them from using git style version control under the hood? User doesn’t have to understand git, Claude can use it for its own purposes.
You can’t easily snapshot the current state of an OS and restore to that state like with git.
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
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Uh, yes? What does that refute?
You just said the user is incapable of providing informed consent. In any context, I really dislike software that prevents me from doing something dangerous in order to "protect" me. That's how we get iOS. The user is an adult, they can consent to this if they want to. If Anthropic is using dark patterns to trick them that's a different story--that wouldn't be informed consent--but I don't think that's happening here…
Legally, yes. Yes, everyone can do that.
The question though is if that is a good thing. Do we just want to look away when large orgs benefit from people not realizing that they're doing self-harm? Do we want to ignore the larger societal implications of this?
If you want to delete your rootfs, be my guest. I just won't be cheering for a corp that tells you that you're brilliant and absolutely right for doing so.
I believe it's a bad thing to frame this as a conflict between individual freedom and protecting the weak(est) parts of society. I don't think that anything good can come out of seeing the world that way.
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#158Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can’t easily snapshot the current state of an OS and restore to that state like with git.
At least on macOS, an OS snapshot is a thing [1]; I suspect Cowork will mostly run in a sandbox, which Claude Code does now. [1]: https://www.cleverfiles.com/help/apfs-snapshots.html
Re: Cowork: Claude Code for the rest of your work
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What percentage of non-IT professionals know what zfs/lvm are let alone how to use them to make snapshots?
I assumed we are talking about IT professionals using tools like claude here? But even for normal people it's not really hard if they manage to leave the cage in their head behind that is ms windows. My father is 77 now and only started using computer abover age 60, never touched windows thanks to me, and has absolutely no problems using (and administrating at this point) it all by himself