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Post by mindslight »

kcplate wrote: post #420
mindslight wrote: post #418

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Wow. I wrote a pretty substantive comment so you could see we have some common ground and I'm not just a "fAr lEfT wAcKo", but apparently that's "not productive". If you want to be done, sure, be done. I think we could have converged much quicker if you hadn't been leading with these kind of abstract-oblique points that demand adding nuance, but then avoiding the nuance. And also I've got to say, this last comment is…

I realize this is difficult for people on this thread to accept, but unless you are someone selected for a jury evaluating this case your opinion, my opinion, the half dozen or more others opinions commenting about this situation on this thread, every pundit or talking head, every news agency, federal government officials, politicians, and even Trump’s opinion (unless he decides to preemptively pardon before any char…

I am well aware of the distinction between what is and what ought to be. You seem to be perfectly content with what is such that it has replaced your ability to even ponder what ought to be. We are all quite fortunate that the founding fathers of our country did not think like you.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by kcplate »

mindslight wrote: post #421
kcplate wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I realize this is difficult for people on this thread to accept, but unless you are someone selected for a jury evaluating this case your opinion, my opinion, the half dozen or more others opinions commenting about this situation on this thread, every pundit or talking head, every news agency, federal government officials, politicians, and even Trump’s opinion (unless he decides to preemptively pardon before any char…

I am well aware of the distinction between what is and what ought to be . You seem to be perfectly content with what is such that it has replaced your ability to even ponder what ought to be . We are all quite fortunate that the founding fathers of our country did not think like you.

> We are all quite fortunate that the founding fathers of our country did not think like you.

Ironic that you think that when all through this thread I have suggested to people that were upset with how this works that the best way for them to change all of it is to use exactly the process our founding fathers put in place for us to do so. Just to get push back from many that mob rule was a better method.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by mindslight »

kcplate wrote: post #422
mindslight wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am well aware of the distinction between what is and what ought to be . You seem to be perfectly content with what is such that it has replaced your ability to even ponder what ought to be . We are all quite fortunate that the founding fathers of our country did not think like you.

> We are all quite fortunate that the founding fathers of our country did not think like you. Ironic that you think that when all through this thread I have suggested to people that were upset with how this works that the best way for them to change all of it is to use exactly the process our founding fathers put in place for us to do so. Just to get push back from many that mob rule was a better method.

You completely missed my point, which perfectly demonstrated my point. Thank you.

(as I'm eternally hopeful, I will give you a breadcrumb that you might start following. ask yourself: what do you think the first steps of using those processes might look like?)

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Post by kahrl »

nebula8804 wrote: post #416
kahrl wrote: post #391

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When a close family member they actually care about is hurt. Until then, these cowards are more than happy to go along to get along.

They have Palantir and the citizens don't. Although when one of them supposedly get found out they are not too happy. https://www.instagram.com/reels/DR0EfA8Erwa/ I honestly don't know how things are going to play out but it seems to be back and forth escalating. So much has transpired in one year: the initial shock of the mass raids, the blatant disregard of the law, blocking of apps like IceBlock, etc. Neither side…

I'm learning about the legality of binary explosives in the USA right now.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by kahrl »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #82
goatlover wrote: post #33

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And there are still Americans defending this. Like they want to live in a dictatorship.

Keep in mind that many so-called "Americans" you see online are thousands of miles from the US, and are paid or otherwise encouraged to pretend otherwise.

My mother LOOOOOVES what is happening. The right people are being hurt. And anyone else she can rationalize and victim blame away.

America is full of sadistic, insecure, troglodytes.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by blurbleblurble »

kahrl wrote: post #425
CamperBob2 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that many so-called "Americans" you see online are thousands of miles from the US, and are paid or otherwise encouraged to pretend otherwise.

My mother LOOOOOVES what is happening. The right people are being hurt. And anyone else she can rationalize and victim blame away. America is full of sadistic, insecure, troglodytes.

It really is sadism, the punitive urge. I'm noticing relatives of mine hesitate to condemn what's happening, and I know that same hesitation from their righteous anger in exacting authoritarian attitudes about other more mundane things. The difference here now is that we're talking about an authoritarian takeover of the government.
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