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Marie Curie Day

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I too love Marie Curie and the 1927 Solvay Conference's picture (which sits in my living room for the edification of my kids!) She's a hero here in France but I don't know about her reputation in the English speaking world. She was a very amazing person. Born in Poland, she studied secretly for years in her native country, because higher education was not opened to females! Then she moved to Paris to join her sister…

> She's a hero here in France

and obviously in Poland. But here we call her with her full Polish(hers)-French(husband) name, not only the French part.

a new bridge in Warsaw was recently named after her http://goo.gl/maps/Y1X5d

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Marie Curie is undeniably one of the greatest female role-figures in science of the last century. I don't know why she isn't more revered, although perhaps are here are a few reasons why: (Note: I bring them up mostly in hopes of pointing out how silly they are)

1. Her work eventually killed her. There was no way for the Curies to know what effect long-term radiation exposure would have, but it's still not a huge image booster for her to have died from material handling practices that would be considered idiotic today.

2. She wasn't a "lone wolf". i.e. She did much of her work with her husband Pierre, who shared the Nobel Prize for physics with her. Pierre was an instructor when they met and undoubtedly gave her a huge helping hand right when she needed it. Never mind that she came from a poor background and showed remarkable determination just getting into college in the first place, or that she would later be the sole recipient of a Nobel prize for chemistry!

3. People are still scared of words like "radioactive" and "radiation". Just look at how comfortable people are with coal power that kills thousands every year as a part of normal operation. Then note how those same people freak out when a nuclear plant threatens to give a handful of people cancer, but only after being horribly mismanaged and then hit by an improbable sequence of natural disasters! Arguably, Curie is scary by her association with something people are unreasonably paranoid about.

4. Let's face it, Ada Lovelace was a bit of a looker, or at least she was painted that way. She even had a sexy sounding name. We have real, unromantic photographs of Curie on the other hand the reveal her to be rather plain by comparison, plus her name is now linked with a scary unit of radioactive decay! It's a case of the Belle vs the school-marm.

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Marie Curie is undeniably one of the greatest female role-figures in science of the last century. I don't know why she isn't more revered, although perhaps are here are a few reasons why: (Note: I bring them up mostly in hopes of pointing out how silly they are) 1. Her work eventually killed her. There was no way for the Curies to know what effect long-term radiation exposure would have, but it's still not a huge ima…

Not sure about in US, but I'm pretty sure majority of kids in this part of the world knows who Marie Curie is than Ada Lovelace.

Ada Lovelace is celebrated among us the computer geeks, because she's the female icon for the field.

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It seems a bit sad that we apparently only can have one woman in science. Why not have two? I think it's perfectly legitimate to celebrate Marie Curie but at the same time also celebrate Ada Lovelace, and I don't see how the two are in competition. If we're going down that route, why are we paying so much attention to Alan Turing, who elected him as the man in science? Aren't there other computer pioneers worth celeb…

If we're going down that route, why are we paying so much attention to Alan Turing, who elected him as the man in science?

No one. He isn't "the man in science" - only a few computer geeks know about him. The man in science is Einstein.

I seriously doubt the man on the street could name anyone else, with the possible exception of "schizophrenic Russel Crowe".

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Marie Curie is undeniably one of the greatest female role-figures in science of the last century. I don't know why she isn't more revered, although perhaps are here are a few reasons why: (Note: I bring them up mostly in hopes of pointing out how silly they are) 1. Her work eventually killed her. There was no way for the Curies to know what effect long-term radiation exposure would have, but it's still not a huge ima…

> handling practices

especially when compared to Röntgen who used lead to isolate him some time before her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Röntgen

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It seems a bit sad that we apparently only can have one woman in science. Why not have two? I think it's perfectly legitimate to celebrate Marie Curie but at the same time also celebrate Ada Lovelace, and I don't see how the two are in competition. If we're going down that route, why are we paying so much attention to Alan Turing, who elected him as the man in science? Aren't there other computer pioneers worth celeb…

If we're going down that route, why are we paying so much attention to Alan Turing, who elected him as the man in science? No one. He isn't "the man in science" - only a few computer geeks know about him. The man in science is Einstein. I seriously doubt the man on the street could name anyone else, with the possible exception of "schizophrenic Russel Crowe".

Hawking would also be recognizable, if not recalled without being prompted, even if only as "smart guy in a wheelchair". (I think Newton might have a shot, and maybe for people 35-55, Carl Sagan?)

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Why do people always omit the "Skłodowska" part? She has used her maiden name through all her life and always identified with her Polish origins, so it might be a little bit disrespectful. There simply are too many signs that she would want to be remembered as Marie Skłodowska-Curie, not just Marie Curie.

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Marie Curie is undeniably one of the greatest female role-figures in science of the last century. I don't know why she isn't more revered, although perhaps are here are a few reasons why: (Note: I bring them up mostly in hopes of pointing out how silly they are) 1. Her work eventually killed her. There was no way for the Curies to know what effect long-term radiation exposure would have, but it's still not a huge ima…

Not sure about in US, but I'm pretty sure majority of kids in this part of the world knows who Marie Curie is than Ada Lovelace. Ada Lovelace is celebrated among us the computer geeks, because she's the female icon for the field.

+1 for that point..

I also posit that, were it not for the "rockstar" image that computing has acquired in the last 30 years or so, this Ada Lovelace thing wouldn't have catapulted like this as well.

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Maria Skłodowska-Curie, to be exact. She moved to France and married there, but never rejected her Polish origins. In fact she supported Polish independence, founded a scientific institute in Warsaw and named one of the elements she discovered after Poland.
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