It would be awesome if this could somehow incorporate relative positions of the parties over time, perhaps by 'waving' the center line left-right as well. For example it could be argued that republicans during Nixon's time were closer to middle of the road democrats of today in terms of overall platform.
FiveThirtyEight: Over the Decades, How States Have Shifted
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#62Of course, none of this actually matters anymore. The corporo-verlords have bought both parties. The only way is parliamentary system with proportional representation. This isn't a political statement, just that hackers should investigate how to hack the system into that form. One clever hack is being done by John Koza (inventor of genetic programming) to do away with the electoral college http://www.nationalpopularv…
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's on the high end, but I think around 80-90% Democratic for an urban core is fairly common. It's hard to get exact numbers because it depends on where lines are drawn. For example, Cook County (where Chicago is located) "only" voted 76% Obama, but it includes a number of suburban areas, and would be >80% if you pruned them. Here are the next-most-Democratic cities I came across in some spot-checking, with NYC boro…
> 70% in San Jose County Santa Clara County? :-) > LA County Sorry, I guess we're a bit overly fussy out here. That one would be Los Angeles County. (Not that you couldn't call it LA County, just doesn't sound quite right. It's not uncommon to abbreviate the city to LA, but not so much the county.)
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#64It would be awesome if this could somehow incorporate relative positions of the parties over time, perhaps by 'waving' the center line left-right as well. For example it could be argued that republicans during Nixon's time were closer to middle of the road democrats of today in terms of overall platform.
> it could be argued that republicans during Nixon's time were closer to middle road democrats of today in terms of overall platform. That's because it's correct, depending on what you mean by 'middle road Democrat'. Nixon created the EPA, created OSHA, signed Title IX into existence, ended the Vietnam war, and endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment, which nevertheless failed to pass. He couldn't have done a lot of thos…
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#65Also, this is another darn fine visualisation from the NYT.
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#66Can somebody from the US please tell me what the deal with the District of Columbia (on the far left) is? Also, this is another darn fine visualisation from the NYT.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
New York County (Manhattan), Chicago and SF look a lot like DC. LA a bit less so, but that's probably because a lot of LA is suburban.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible that is a factor, but DC is >50% black, so it wouldn't be surprising to see a huge majority for Obama in 2008.
It's about 50% (50.7) http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html
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#68It would be awesome if this could somehow incorporate relative positions of the parties over time, perhaps by 'waving' the center line left-right as well. For example it could be argued that republicans during Nixon's time were closer to middle of the road democrats of today in terms of overall platform.
Trying to assign modern labels to the political parties of the 60's and 70's is a bit silly. Two of the biggest issues of the time (the Cold war and segregation) no longer exist today. Neither party has a stated position on the Soviet Union and both parties are radical integrationists.
We could call that a huge leftward shift, except that integration was mostly a right wing issue up until Nixon's "Southern Strategy".
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I know cities tend to vote liberal, but DC has always seemed extreme to me, even accounting for that. I mean, I don't have data for how big cities vote in general, but I thought it was something like 70% liberal. A solid majority and dissenters. But DC voted 93% Democrat in 2008. 93! That's not a majority. That's a consensus.
DC is fed by US government. Democrats are pro-government, so DC votes for Democrats.
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#70Can somebody from the US please tell me what the deal with the District of Columbia (on the far left) is? Also, this is another darn fine visualisation from the NYT.
Big cities in the US tend to be extremely left wing. A quick google search reveals this map: http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html New York County (Manhattan), Chicago and SF look a lot like DC. LA a bit less so, but that's probably because a lot of LA is suburban.