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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by SilverSlash »

I have a multitude of complaints about Tahoe, many of which others have already pointed out. One more thing that doesn't get mentioned as often but probably should is their new placement of the volume / brightness level UI which pops up when you change those two.

It used to be in the middle of the screen and worked just fine. But then someone thoughts of putting it exactly where browser tabs usually are and I _constantly_ find myself in a situation where I change the volume and try to click on a tab that this UI is on top of. Then I need to move my mouse outside the UI otherwise it stays there, and wait for it to disappear before I can change tabs. It's infuriating.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by altern8 »

I downgraded back to Sequoia after 1 day.

I have no idea what Apple were thinking, this OS is basically unusable, and extremely ugly.

I hope I won't somehow be forced to upgrade at some point.

Apple needs to start thinking about their users again instead of shareholders.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by gherkinnn »

jwr wrote: post #560
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

Tahoe actually harms their hardware sales. I would normally upgrade to the latest MacBook Pro as soon as they become available, but I know that the next M5 generation will come with Tahoe installed and I intend to keep my current machine for as long as I can…

The M1 hurt their future hardware sales, as now, 5 years later, it remains a viable machine. The M1 MacBook Air has become a bit of a meme.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lossyalgo »

mikae1 wrote: post #562
SanjayMehta wrote: post #525

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The support pages are exactly this. They're called Level 0 support in most companies internally.

"Just award them with some stars or points or whatever, and they'll be happy." I wish these people would wake up and spend their time helping peers on a forum for some open source project instead.

Then we would have zero support, or they would shut down the forums entirely. Or are you implying that the companies would be forced to finally offer official support?

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by type0 »

scarlehoff wrote: post #246
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

I agree. This is the first time I regret updating macOs. I hoped the .1 or .2 would fix things, but I'm still seeing glitches and even random freezes. Microsoft is a disaster right now, but if the new intel processor can compete on battery life with mac I might go back to linux.

> if the new intel processor can compete on battery life with mac I might go back to linux.

Unfortunately Intel is cutting down their Linux involvement so I wouldn't have high hopes for it. Newer AMD laptops are probably on par with Intel on Linux now.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by elAhmo »

foxandmouse wrote: post #57
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

"Linux is finally in this position" is a meme at this point.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by pilif »

As much as I like to hate on a new OS like the next person, I think it's worth pointing out we're probably not seeing the full picture here:

When trying to reproduce the problem as shown in the article by resizing the Safari window currently displaying the article, the drag cursor changes shape at the visible border of the window, not the shadow and consequently, dragging works as expected.

https://youtu.be/kNovjjvYP8g

This might be an application- or driver specific issue, not necessarily a common Tahoe issue.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by asystole »

steve_taylor wrote: post #239
iLemming wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

Focus stealing has been an issue in windowed multi-tasking environments from the beginning. It's certainly been an issue in all macOS/OS X versions I've used since I started in 2011.

This bug isn't that. It's the frontmost app losing focus to nothing.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by shultays »

I think another problem is the tiny resize cursor, on windows (at least on mine) it is a lot bigger and more distinct compared to regular cursor and when your cursor changes to resize arrow it is more apparent.

I don't really see/care where my mouse exactly is. If it is outside or inside the window. Once my cursor turns to resize cursor, I just start dragging.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by vanviegen »

wolvoleo wrote: post #382
postalcoder wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Touch Bar implementation sucked but I'm going to defend that attempt 100 out of 100 times. If Apple didn't remove the function keys I think it would have been a hit feature. There wasn't proper commitment to the feature.

True, if they'd kept the function keys and just added the touch bar above it it would have been great. Weird thing is there was more than enough space for both so I don't understand why they didn't do that.

Or replace them with physical keys with tiny LCDs screen on them to indicate their meaning in the current context.
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