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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by eviks »

AlienRobot wrote: post #280
eviks wrote: post #215

> Since upgrading to macOS Tahoe, I’ve noticed that quite often my attempts to resize a window are failing. That should nudge users away from this rather primitive method of window resizing using tiny 19px corners and instead set up a productivity app where your can use the full 33% of the window size (so conveniently huge! and of course customizable) to resize via an extra trigger (for example, using a modifier key)…

"I need to resize my window." "You shouldn't need this."

"My reading comprehension failed, help me!"

"You should use this more convenient way to fulfill your window resizing need!"

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by brikym »

fnoef wrote: post #550

Liquid glass is a piece of crap from Apple. I didn’t update my iPhone, nor my Mac. I will hold for as long as possible, and will consider switching away from the apple ecosystem if they do not address this fiasco of an update.

I still call it liquid ass.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by [deleted] »

carlosjobim wrote: post #222
foxandmouse wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

Linux doesn't have much in the way of quality apps for people who aren't programmers, server administrators, or gamers. Most people want to get productive work done with their computer, and OS X has top tier apps for every need possible. No good e-mail app, no good office apps, no good calendar app, no good invoicing app, no good photo editing app, no good designer app, etc

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by mrweasel »

areoform wrote: post #131

Apple is at the point where they need a Jobs-ian correction again. Steve Jobs would have had a fit over this product line. As '97 era Jobs put it, "The products suck! There's no sex in them anymore!" My modest proposal for Apple diehards (especially employees) is to feed all the data that exists on Jobs into a multi-modal model so that Apple can hear just how much their shit sucks from Jobs' digital ghost. A good sta…

It's not just Apple though. Something is wrong in the software industry. Desktop/PC operating systems aren't going away, but the industry have decided that it's no longer a relevant product category.

Windows is going down a strange path, where it's productivity is suffering because Microsoft is measuring success in terms of CoPilot adoption. Apple is stuck trying to invent the next iPhone, but in the meantime they are trying to make the iPhone sexy by slapping on a new skin. Then they forgot about macOS and quickly moves over some stuff from iPhone. Neither of the products apparent have UX designers anymore and QA is meeeh.

I don't understand either company. Both use to have talented UI/UX teams and actually listened to them. Is it really just short term stock price thinking that make them both forget that their operating systems should be about productivity and user ergonomics?

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by eviks »

1f60c wrote: post #234
eviks wrote: post #215

> Since upgrading to macOS Tahoe, I’ve noticed that quite often my attempts to resize a window are failing. That should nudge users away from this rather primitive method of window resizing using tiny 19px corners and instead set up a productivity app where your can use the full 33% of the window size (so conveniently huge! and of course customizable) to resize via an extra trigger (for example, using a modifier key)…

I set up Raycast ( https://www.raycast.com/ ) with the same keybinds as Magnet ( https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/ ) because I learned those first and haven't looked back.

Look back and discover a better way, those are not ergonomic defaults even though you got used to them. But also convenient app switching beats having your content get shifted around due to constant window resizing, that workflow mostly works for stuff you need "permanently" side by side. And on laptops this also runs into screen size limitations

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by baxuz »

necovek wrote: post #490
Saline9515 wrote: post #114

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Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

Since MacOS removed subpixel rendering a few years ago, regular resolution displays have terrible looking text in comparison to Windows or Linux. Gnome in Linux works great for a decade+ with a single high resolution screen, but there are certainly apps that render too small (Steam was one of the problems). Different scaling factors on several monitors are not perfect though, but I generally dislike how Mac handles t…

Steam has DPI scaling issues on Windows as well, especially on multimonitor setups.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by blell »

coffeeaddict1 wrote: post #545
drob518 wrote: post #227

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Yea, the programmers aren’t to blame here. In fact some of the visual effects they have achieved are pretty cool. The designers are at fault because they prioritized visuals over usability. Literally nobody I know thinks “Liquid Glass” has been an improvement. The feedback is universally negative.

I hate it too, but to my surprise, all of my colleagues (with an iPhone) said they love because it looks great.

I love it both on an iPhone and a Mac. It runs great and it looks great. It’s a mistake to look at what people say on the internet. They are usually hopelessly contrarian.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by blell »

EagnaIonat wrote: post #496
VerifiedReports wrote: post #320

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The removal of Launchpad was an inexplicable blunder. The OS now provides no way to organize your applications. Why would I want my dev tools, audio apps, 3-D-modeling apps, and office apps all jumbled together? It's as if Apple is trying to catch up to Microsoft in the race to regress.

> The removal of Launchpad was an inexplicable blunder. It wasn't a blunder. It was absolutely intentional to force users to start using the AI component. I suspect someone probably pointed out no one would use it because launchpad has a better UX, so they removed it and forced the three finger pinch to launch spotlight. I'm currently using the following to fix it. - Bug in preferences that disabling show home also d…

What AI component?

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by jwr »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

Tahoe actually harms their hardware sales. I would normally upgrade to the latest MacBook Pro as soon as they become available, but I know that the next M5 generation will come with Tahoe installed and I intend to keep my current machine for as long as I can…
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