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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by acdha »

jader201 wrote: post #387
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

I was in the market for a new MBP (still on my 2015 MBP). After all of these articles and reports of how terrible Tahoe is, I’m holding off. I’m hoping they’ll wake up and fix this with the next release, but I’m not super optimistic. We’ll see.

The M4 I bought last month shipped without Tahoe and hasn’t been updated. If you can get one which isn’t already upgraded, you can leave it on the better release as long as Sequoia was ever supported on that generation.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by nescap »

qxxx wrote: post #505

I don't know what you have, it works on my machine. Just tried it. I can grab the rounded corner (+- few px inside/outside). I can't grab the corner like shown in the gif. I am on Tahoe 26.2 (25C56)

After a bit of testing, the target area seems to have certain dimensions that are based on pixels (19x19 according to OP). With a lower resolution, the corners become much easier to grab. I have had no issues resizing windows, and I'm on 26.0 (25A353).

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by oreilles »

cr1895 wrote: post #170
testfrequency wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you didn’t catch this yet, but Apple pulled their latest iOS 18.7.3 update and they seem to only promote iOS 26 now. They really want everyone off iOS 18 :/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2026/01/07/hundreds-...

You can sign up for Apple beta and keep doing iOS 18 updates.

Nope, they don't sign iOS 18 updates anymore.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by acdha »

gedy wrote: post #112
kristopolous wrote: post #51

I swear, this reign of visual artists as dictators has to stop. I'm sure people noticed this issue internally and brought it up but some thing by some designer was seen as biblically sacred and overruled all reason. I've been at companies were you get severely punished... sometimes fired for subordination for fixing an obviously broken spec by a designer emperor. It's normal to be "I guess 2+2=5 here, whatever" as if…

I think the mistake comes from when UI/UX started calling themselves a part of product leadership, vs basically being one of the team.

That’s not a bad thing (user experience is important) but remember that Liquid Glass was designed by someone without a UI background. Alan Dye designed the boxes iPhones come in and was installed by Jony Ive, an industrial designer. Neither of them had training or experience in usability, and all of the UX people I know are basically complaining non-stop about how many basic UX principles the 26 releases violate.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by coffeeaddict1 »

drob518 wrote: post #227
kristopolous wrote: post #51

I swear, this reign of visual artists as dictators has to stop. I'm sure people noticed this issue internally and brought it up but some thing by some designer was seen as biblically sacred and overruled all reason. I've been at companies were you get severely punished... sometimes fired for subordination for fixing an obviously broken spec by a designer emperor. It's normal to be "I guess 2+2=5 here, whatever" as if…

Yea, the programmers aren’t to blame here. In fact some of the visual effects they have achieved are pretty cool. The designers are at fault because they prioritized visuals over usability. Literally nobody I know thinks “Liquid Glass” has been an improvement. The feedback is universally negative.

I hate it too, but to my surprise, all of my colleagues (with an iPhone) said they love because it looks great.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by Foivos »

cr1895 wrote: post #170
testfrequency wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you didn’t catch this yet, but Apple pulled their latest iOS 18.7.3 update and they seem to only promote iOS 26 now. They really want everyone off iOS 18 :/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2026/01/07/hundreds-...

You can sign up for Apple beta and keep doing iOS 18 updates.

There are many reports that since around Christmas day, you can not do this any more on phones that support iOS 26. Updating to iOS 26 is the only option now.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by _def »

I recently learned about a shortcut you can enable for moving windows, is something similar around for resizing? On linux I do this via alt + left click and alt + right click

`NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture` setting allows you to drag windows at any point if you hold ⌃⌘

`defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool YES`

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by nescap »

jojule wrote: post #251

When resizing, I expect to drag from the edge of a window. This is exactly how it works in macOS Tahoe, with a sufficient drag zone on the both sides. The only "strangeness" is that the drag zone extends further outside the window in the corner zone. IMO this is nice. All that said, I REALLY would love to have a hotkey combo I can beep pressed down to resize anywhere over the window. Just like in many Unix/Linux wind…

There is this obscure setting you can enable to be able to click anywhere on a window while holding Command + Control to move it.

defaults write −g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture −bool true

This only supports moving around windows, not resizing.

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