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Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by drnick1 »

Etheryte wrote: post #96
drnick1 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather expose a Wireguard port and control my keys than introduce a third party like Tailscale. I am not sure why people are so afraid of exposing ports. I have dozens of ports open on my server including SMTP, IMAP(S), HTTP(S), various game servers and don't see a problem with that. I can't rule out a vulnerability somewhere but services are containerized and/or run as separate UNIX users. It's the way the Inter…

Every time I put anything anywhere on the open net, it gets bombarded 24/7 by every script kiddie, botnet group , and these days, AI company out there. No matter what I'm hosting, it's a lot more convenient to not have to worry about that even for a second.

> Every time I put anything anywhere on the open net, it gets bombarded 24/7 by every script kiddie, botnet group , and these days, AI company out there

Are you sure that it isn't just port scanners? I get perhaps hundreds of connections to my STMP server every day, but they are just innocuous connections (hello, then disconnect). I wouldn't worry about that unless you see repeated login attempts, in which case you may want to deploy Fail2Ban.

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by jacobthesnakob »

efilife wrote: post #9

how many times will I get clickbaited by some cool title only to see AI praise in the article and nothing more? It's tiring and happens way too often related "webdev is fun again": claude. https://ma.ttias.be/web-development-is-fun-again/ Also the "Why it matters" in the article. I thought it's a jab at AI-generated articles but it starts too look like the article was AI written as well

Maybe because I don’t do SWE for my job, but I have fun writing docker-compose files, troubleshooting them, and adding containers to my server. Then I understand how/why stuff works if it breaks, why would I want to hand that over to an AI?

Waiting for the follow-on article “Claude Code reformatted my NAS and I lost my entire media collection.”

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by nojs »

This post is spot on, the combo of tailscale + Claude Code is a game changer. This is particularly true for companies as well.

CC lets you hack together internal tools quickly, and tailscale means you can safely deploy them without worrying about hardening the app and server from the outside world. And tailscale ACLs lets you fully control who can access what services.

It also means you can literally host the tools on a server in your office, if you really want to.

Putting CC on the server makes this set up even better. It’s extremely good at system admin.

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by chasing0entropy »

hinkley wrote: post #14

What I’d really like is to run the admin interface for an app on a self hosted system behind firewalls, and push read replicas out into the cloud. But I haven’t seen a database where the master pushes data to the replicas instead of the replicas contacting the master. Which creates some pretty substantial tunneling problems that I don’t really want on my home network. Is there a replica implementation that works in t…

Use NAT hole punching if you're advanced, or you could fall back to IP/port filtering

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by notesinthefield »

devonhk wrote: post #56
notesinthefield wrote: post #30

I find myself a bit overwhelmed with hardware options during recent explorations. Seemingly everything can handle what I want a local copy of my Bandcamp archive to stream via jellyfin. Good times we’re in but even having good sysadmin skills, I wish someone would just tell me exactly what to buy.

> I wish someone would just tell me exactly what to buy. I’ll bite. You can save a lot of money by buying used hardware. I recommend looking for old Dell OptiPlex towers on Facebook Marketplace or from local used computer stores. Lenovo ThinkCentres (e.g., m700 tiny) are also a great option if you prefer something with a smaller form factor. I’d recommend disregarding advice from non-technical folks recommending bran…

I forgot all about these after I stopped doing desktop support, thanks!

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by drnick1 »

zamadatix wrote: post #89
drnick1 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather expose a Wireguard port and control my keys than introduce a third party like Tailscale. I am not sure why people are so afraid of exposing ports. I have dozens of ports open on my server including SMTP, IMAP(S), HTTP(S), various game servers and don't see a problem with that. I can't rule out a vulnerability somewhere but services are containerized and/or run as separate UNIX users. It's the way the Inter…

It's the way the internet was meant to work but it doesn't make it any easier. Even when everything is in containers/VMs/users, if you don't put a decent amount of additional effort into automatic updates and keeping that context hardened as you tinker with it it's quite annoying when it gets pwned. There was a popular post less than a month ago about this recently https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46305585 I agre…

> There was a popular post less than a month ago about this recently https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46305585

This incident precisely shows that containerization worked as intended and protected the host.

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by jacobthesnakob »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #107
jacobthesnakob wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pi’s are incredible little basic home servers but they can’t handle transcoding. Great option for places with very expensive electricity too.

I just found their proprietary hardware and being ARM too limiting. I wanted to set up full disk encryption to set up nextcloud on, and found that on the pi this is an incredibly complex process. While on an x86 PC it's just a checkbox on install. And then you can only use distros which have a raspberry pi specific build. Generic ARM ones won't work.

Yeah the complaints are fair. I stick to RPi OS for maximum compatibility. People have been crying for a Google Drive client for Linux for over a decade, but still have to set it up in rclone.

I build out my server in Docker and I’ve been surprised that every image I’ve ever wanted to download has an ARM image.

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by Melatonic »

simonw wrote: post #3

This posts lists inexpensive home servers, Tailscale and Claude Code as the big unlocks. I actually think Tailscale may be an even bigger deal here than sysadmin help from Claude Code at al. The biggest reason I had not to run a home server was security: I'm worried that I might fall behind on updates and end up compromised. Tailscale dramatically reduces this risk, because I can so easily configure it so my own devi…

Why not cloudflare tunnels ?

Re: CLI agents make self-hosting on a home server easier and fun

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Post by chasing0entropy »

jacobthesnakob wrote: post #112
efilife wrote: post #9

how many times will I get clickbaited by some cool title only to see AI praise in the article and nothing more? It's tiring and happens way too often related "webdev is fun again": claude. https://ma.ttias.be/web-development-is-fun-again/ Also the "Why it matters" in the article. I thought it's a jab at AI-generated articles but it starts too look like the article was AI written as well

Maybe because I don’t do SWE for my job, but I have fun writing docker-compose files, troubleshooting them, and adding containers to my server. Then I understand how/why stuff works if it breaks, why would I want to hand that over to an AI? Waiting for the follow-on article “Claude Code reformatted my NAS and I lost my entire media collection.”

ROFL. There have been at least two posts of Claude without confirmation deleting a repository and one where it wiped an entire partition
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