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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ValentineC » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:44 PM UTC

nntwozz wrote: post #26

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

Not to beat on my own drum but as a mac convert from the days of Tiger I saw the writing on the wall from miles away. Still on iOS 18 and macOS 15 (Sequoia). I was a day one upgrader up until now, never had any regrets but this time things seemed very different. It's worrisome but all is not lost, I'll start sweating for real if next year's releases don't improve things substantially.

> Still on iOS 18 and macOS 15 (Sequoia). I was a day one upgrader up until now, never had any regrets but this time things seemed very different.

I've tried and returned the iPhone 17 Pro. Love the hardware (especially the camera), but iOS 26 is inefficient (for lack of a better term), and the new camera UI hides too many things.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by BoneShard » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:44 PM UTC

Maybe I'm too old and every modern computer is a marvel to me, but as someone switching between win/macos/linux all these complaints amuse me. While in windows I'm using powertoys and I can move/resize windows using any space inside a window. It's the same with linux/gnome - a couple of config settings. Then, when I started using macos I looked for a similar solution - found BetterSnapTool and just started using it.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by john_alan » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:44 PM UTC

Tahoe is a nightmare. I’m Literally not buying a new Mac because of it.

Dye destroyed macOS. I don’t know what they do, but they have to backtrack.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by cherryteastain » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:44 PM UTC

Saline9515 wrote: post #114

foxandmouse wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

Not a problem on my Fedora Silverblue 43 machine with dual 4K 27" screens at 125% scaling. Zero blurry apps, including XWayland ones.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by p_ing » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

dlivingston wrote: post #37

GrowingSideways wrote: post #19

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Can you interpret this comment for those of us that haven't used windows? All i can recall from "vista" is that it looked good

Microsoft's Copilot AI software has been integrated in every corner of the operating system, from the start menu to the notepad to settings. Beyond the intrusiveness of it, it also does not work very well. Other AI mishaps include Recall, which takes screenshots of your desktop every so often, and the original version of Recall stored these in an unencrypted, insecure database. On top of that, the OS feels more bloat…

I don't have Copilot in my start menu. It's in Notepad, but that is the only place I've found it. This is on 25H2.

> original version of Recall stored these in an unencrypted, insecure database.

Why do you bother mentioning it, given that's been long rectified and that particular version never made it to the production ring?

> six different UI frameworks all present in various spots on the OS

Windows has always been like this. It wasn't until Windows 11 that the Font dialog was upgraded from a Win 3.x look and feel.

> no more local-only accounts allowed.

Just false.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by realusername » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

Nextgrid wrote: post #89

GrowingSideways wrote: post #19

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Can you interpret this comment for those of us that haven't used windows? All i can recall from "vista" is that it looked good

The Vista comparison is unfair. I think a lot of the bad rap Vista got was from trying to run it on underpowered hardware thanks to marketing XP-era machines as "Windows Vista Capable". I actually ran it on good HW (the kind that could run Crysis) and I didn't have anything bad to say. Yes, UAC could be considered as annoyance by some but it's no different than "sudo" on single-user Linux machines and we seemingly ha…

You had way more issues than that on launch, performance of 3d games sucked compared to XP with the same hardware (I remember at least a 30% decrease of FPS) and usb file transfers were so borked you probably had half of the speed of XP transfering on a usb key (which was the primary method of transfering files at the time).

The UAC wasn't even the main problem, the overall performance of Vista was, everything was so much slower.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lovasoa » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

Saline9515 wrote: post #114

foxandmouse wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

I use linux at home (with a HiDPI screen) and MacOS for work. The screen works well with both computers. I mostly just use a text editor, a browser, and a terminal though.

Linux has bugs, bug MacOS does too. I feel like for a dev like me, the linux setup is more comfortable.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ValentineC » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

valleyer wrote: post #143

trollbridge wrote: post #105

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Yes, you can install any version of macOS that was ever supported for your Mac. (It’s been a long time since they used System Enablers.) I’m so frustrated with Tahoe that I’m about to do this.

But you cannot, in general, migrate your data backwards. Apple's system apps will upgrade their data stores forward only. This isn't a problem if you are willing to e.g. re-download all of your (Mail.app) mail.

> But you cannot, in general, migrate your data backwards. Apple's system apps will upgrade their data stores forward only.

One huge reason to use third-party programs where possible. I dislike Apple's tight coupling of utilities as it is.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by chocochunks » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:47 PM UTC

Saline9515 wrote: post #114

foxandmouse wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

MacOS doesn't handle HiDPI screens that well either. The most common and affordable high res monitors are 27" 4K monitors and those don't mesh well with the way macOS does HiDPI. You either have a perfect 2x but giant 1080p like display or a blurryish non-integer scale that's more usable.

And god forbid you still have low DPI monitor still!

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by xmddmx » Sun, Jan 11, 2026, 10:48 PM UTC

overfeed wrote: post #140

einr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off the top of my head: Windows Vista was slow and unstable on a lot of hardware of the time due to significantly higher system requirements than XP and a new display driver model that worked poorly at first, had a very polarizing look, and had quite overbearing UAC -- where XP would just let you do the thing, Vista would ask you three times if you're really really sure you wanted to authorize it. It had decent bones…

Windows Vista was also notorious for going overboard with translucency effects in the default "Aero" style

My memory is that it was named "Aero Glass" which heightens the irony of "Liquid Glass" sucking.

But I see many references to it being called just "Aero", but some call it "Aero Glass" [1]

Does anyone know the truth?

[1] https://www.pcmag.com/archive/rip-aero-glass-windows-8-stick...