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Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by CubsFan1060 »

hdra wrote: post #29
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #28

I'm not familiar with this at all. But at first blush, it seems like the Readme is far more interested in being angry with Anthropic than actually telling me what this is or why I care. I see "Multi Agent Orchestration", but, scrolling through this I still have no idea what I'm looking at.

The readme (and probably most of the project) is likely generated by an LLM - chances are we'll learn more reading the prompts than the readme. I actually tried this few days back before the Claude Code EULA reinforcement, I went through the same thing. 1. I honestly had a hard time parsing what this is supposed to do or provide over standard opencode setup from the readme. It is rather long-winded and have a lot of…

Thanks for pointing me to the Gas Town blog post. That was...a lot. I'm going to need a lot of time to digest everything that was in there.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by lsaferite »

hdra wrote: post #29
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #28

I'm not familiar with this at all. But at first blush, it seems like the Readme is far more interested in being angry with Anthropic than actually telling me what this is or why I care. I see "Multi Agent Orchestration", but, scrolling through this I still have no idea what I'm looking at.

The readme (and probably most of the project) is likely generated by an LLM - chances are we'll learn more reading the prompts than the readme. I actually tried this few days back before the Claude Code EULA reinforcement, I went through the same thing. 1. I honestly had a hard time parsing what this is supposed to do or provide over standard opencode setup from the readme. It is rather long-winded and have a lot of…

Re point 5, the simplest argument in favor of sub-agent workflows it that it allows the main agent context to remain free of a large amount of task-specific working context. This lets the main context survive longer before you need compaction. Compaction in CC is a major loss of context IME. Context compaction is generally the point where I reset the conversation as the compacted conversation is practically as bad as a new one but has a bunch of wasted space already.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

#34

Post by mapontosevenths »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #20
azuanrb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing this to API access feels odd to me. Opencode does not magically convert your subscription into API usage. It is just an alternative to the official CLI. It has a web UI, smoother UX, and less flickering. Nothing groundbreaking, but it is pretty annoying that even something as simple as tagging files with @ is still so laggy.

How do you think Claude Code and OpenCode communicate with Anthropic? Through the API. Maybe it's accessed slightly differently for subscription users. Anthropic is saying you can't use the API via a subscription anywhere you want. Only Claude Code can use it that way.

OpenCode doesnt use the official API. It illegally bypasses it and pretends to be the Claude CLI app, which allows people who dont pay for API access to use it anyhow. That violates Anthropics TOS and robs them of income they rightfully should have had.

If you dont like a service or cant afford it dont use it. If you do and you can, be a paying customer.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

#35

Post by reilly3000 »

lsaferite wrote: post #33
hdra wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The readme (and probably most of the project) is likely generated by an LLM - chances are we'll learn more reading the prompts than the readme. I actually tried this few days back before the Claude Code EULA reinforcement, I went through the same thing. 1. I honestly had a hard time parsing what this is supposed to do or provide over standard opencode setup from the readme. It is rather long-winded and have a lot of…

Re point 5, the simplest argument in favor of sub-agent workflows it that it allows the main agent context to remain free of a large amount of task-specific working context. This lets the main context survive longer before you need compaction. Compaction in CC is a major loss of context IME. Context compaction is generally the point where I reset the conversation as the compacted conversation is practically as bad as…

How I wish we could just see and patch up the raw context before it goes out. If I could hand edit a compaction it would result in better execution going forward and better for my own mental model. It’s such a small feature, but Anthropic would never give it to us.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by knollimar »

tacker2000 wrote: post #27
futuraperdita wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're an engineering manager, you should communicate with your team, know their strengths and weaknesses, stay sharp on modern technique, and, most importantly, ask them what workflows work best for them, not us on Hacker News. If you're hiring a consultancy or a pile of freelancers it's a bit different, but the question here would make me believe you don't trust their capability to start and I would be looking f…

Why are you being so combative? I dont understand how you can say that its a bad thing to ask an IT professional community like HN for advice? I assume you were born with all the knowledge of the world?

Probably the "should I force X on my team" instead of managing them like professionals with insight (or even just treating them like adults).

Managers deciding minutiae like this is the type of micromanagement you make blog posts about, imo.

You would have likely received less combative feedback without your first sentence. I would have framed it as "recommend to team"

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by HumanOstrich »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #34
HumanOstrich wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you think Claude Code and OpenCode communicate with Anthropic? Through the API. Maybe it's accessed slightly differently for subscription users. Anthropic is saying you can't use the API via a subscription anywhere you want. Only Claude Code can use it that way.

OpenCode doesnt use the official API. It illegally bypasses it and pretends to be the Claude CLI app, which allows people who dont pay for API access to use it anyhow. That violates Anthropics TOS and robs them of income they rightfully should have had. If you dont like a service or cant afford it dont use it. If you do and you can, be a paying customer.

You just repeated what I said in a different way. It is accessed differently, but it's still going to go through the same APIs at Anthropic. Maybe they have some differences or use different endpoints, but Anthropic didn't duplicate their entire business for CC vs official API users.

Edit: I appreciate the reply that we're probably on the same page.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

#38

Post by mapontosevenths »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #37
mapontosevenths wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenCode doesnt use the official API. It illegally bypasses it and pretends to be the Claude CLI app, which allows people who dont pay for API access to use it anyhow. That violates Anthropics TOS and robs them of income they rightfully should have had. If you dont like a service or cant afford it dont use it. If you do and you can, be a paying customer.

You just repeated what I said in a different way. It is accessed differently, but it's still going to go through the same APIs at Anthropic. Maybe they have some differences or use different endpoints, but Anthropic didn't duplicate their entire business for CC vs official API users. Edit: I appreciate the reply that we're probably on the same page.

You're right. Sorry about that. I misread your original comment. I think we are making the same point here.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by expanseoftrees »

futuraperdita wrote: post #15
expanseoftrees wrote: post #12

If I have a team of developers should I be enforcing this type of multi-agent setup for development? Has this tech reached the level of being better than your above average developer at implementing well specified features? Has anyone had success doing this?

If you're an engineering manager, you should communicate with your team, know their strengths and weaknesses, stay sharp on modern technique, and, most importantly, ask them what workflows work best for them, not us on Hacker News. If you're hiring a consultancy or a pile of freelancers it's a bit different, but the question here would make me believe you don't trust their capability to start and I would be looking f…

I am reaching out to the community to understand the impact this type of tooling is having on engineering teams.

Specifically then, has anyone experienced a step change from these types of multi-agent tools, above the base experience of using Claude Code. Or is this something that just looks the part?

Reading through the code it gives the impression it's teasing out more power from the LLMs. The structure looks like an advanced use of Claude Code with correct feeling abstractions.

Re: Sisyphus Now Lives in Oh My Claude

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Post by expanseoftrees »

gbnwl wrote: post #22
expanseoftrees wrote: post #12

If I have a team of developers should I be enforcing this type of multi-agent setup for development? Has this tech reached the level of being better than your above average developer at implementing well specified features? Has anyone had success doing this?

In my experience multi-agent orchestration frameworks usually accomplish vague to unnoticable to straight up worse results compared just getting used to the vanilla tools before impulsively installing the daily flavor of "I made Claude Code better". I'm guessing you've probably already noticed by now these come out daily. But a look at the repo shows that they do at least halfway use sub-agents in the way most people…

Thanks for the reply! Yeah, it was the code in the repo that triggered me to ask the question. It looks well written with correct looking abstractions. So feels like it's worth a try if you've only been using vanilla Claude Code. But trying everything is time consuming.
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