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Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

hartator wrote: post #48

I candidly thought it wasn’t possible to block Starlink. I guess with motivated actors anything is possible.

The title is wrong, as usual. This is a re-hash of earlier reports. Starlink is getting 30-80% packet loss, depending on where they're using it. Likely local jammers. But it still gets through.

Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by NedF »

ACCount37 wrote: post #36

Not too surprising, given that Starlink operates in Iran without a permit, "space pirate radio" style, and has something of a habit of making the access free when major protests happen and the government imposes a network blackout. Iranian government and Starlink have no love for each other, clearly. It's a pattern by now: whenever a government wants to do something awful, it shuts down internet access - so that no o…

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Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by fridek »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #49
hartator wrote: post #48

I candidly thought it wasn’t possible to block Starlink. I guess with motivated actors anything is possible.

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Who is "we" and "them"? Don't you find it ironic, such a comment on a thread about protesting a regime which tries to control who does what?

Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by TMWNN »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #49
hartator wrote: post #48

I candidly thought it wasn’t possible to block Starlink. I guess with motivated actors anything is possible.

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Starlink has no ground stations on Iranian soil and is formally prohibited by its government, so there is nothing being "provided" to Iran, per se. Iranians smuggle Starlink dishes in, at great personal risk.

Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by iberator »

hartator wrote: post #48

I candidly thought it wasn’t possible to block Starlink. I guess with motivated actors anything is possible.

Jamming or hijacking geostationary satellites signal is trivial for literally a team of 3 hm radio veterans with 10+ years of experience.

Jamming RF is easy in general. Nowadays we can even do beamforming so i guess it would be trivial.

Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by perihelions »

Seems like a big flaw that low-orbit constellations have a dependency on GPS, which are high-altitude satellites. They're 40x further away and so have 1,600x greater path loss. Why can't they use their own satellites for this?

> "But Starlink receivers use GPS to locate and connect to satellites. “Since its 12-day war with Israel last June," The Times says, “Iran has been disrupting GPS signals.”"

Re: Iran is likely jamming Starlink

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Post by GrowingSideways »

consumer451 wrote: post #54

I am curious if there are any implications for the Russian invasion of Ukraine from this tactic working.

Both sides are using starlink, yes?

Also there's now guowang to contend with. I'm not sure how widely available access to it is.

I would assume both sides are heavily jamming the frontlines. But presumably long range drone operations are more likely to use it.

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Post by Etheryte »

consumer451 wrote: post #54

I am curious if there are any implications for the Russian invasion of Ukraine from this tactic working.

What do you mean, Russia has been doing the same thing for most of the war? The success relies on you controlling the territory, or at least territory close enough, so the results vary.
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