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Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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But then brands could buy their own products back for cheaper and just get a real life infinite money glitch?

This actually happened to some restaurants who found their service on DoorDash. The restaurant owners were able to make a fine profit out of DoorDash’s arbitrage scheme.

Indeed! Discussed at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23216852

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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Yep. Up next: Amazon will mark the items up 15%.

It is a data play. Which shops/product lines/customer segments can we take over profitably. This should lead to anti trust.

How about a DMCA notice for Amazon accessing and using the websites of the actual sellers against their terms? If we're not going to get rid of that law it should at least be applied fairly.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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But then brands could buy their own products back for cheaper and just get a real life infinite money glitch?

Don’t worry. If Amazon decided to undercut by selling at a loss, they would absolutely put it in their ToS that retailers cannot exploit this loophole and they would sue to enforce their ToS.

These manufacturers never signed any ToS, and the most Amazon could do to retaliate would be to de-list the product that they never asked to be listed in the first place.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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Odd story. If you strip out the "Amazon" and "AI" stuff, the core seems to be that there's a tech company offering a service called Buy For Me which crawls various merchants who operate their own storefronts, lists the products they find for Buy For Me's users, and have a button the users can press which...buys the product. Which is a little odd, and the value is questionable, but fundamentally seems...fine? You're a…

"Fundamentally fine"? How do you think Amazon would react to someone scraping their marketplace and posting the inventory under their own service? Unless the answer is "they'd be perfectly happy to have to opt out individually in each case", that's a double standard. The only reason they wouldn't actually need to care about this is because they have comparatively inexhaustive resources to be able to shut this sort of thing down with a sledgehammer without having to risk meaningful consequences rather than what they're telling sellers to do, which is to ask nicely to stop being included, and that's a sign of an unhealthy ecosystem where competition is non-existent.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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Wouldn't this be violating copyrights left and right? Presumably most of these listings have pictures and I'd be surprised if Amazon were asking permission to reproduce them. Would the same apply to item descriptions...?

No. The producer of a good has no copyright in images made of that good by someone else. Ordinarily, the photographer holds the copyright to an image, unless it was a work for hire.

So if I buy a thing, take a photo of it, then use my photo to accompany a listing for that thing, the manufacturer of that thing has no recourse in copyright law.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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post #13

Odd story. If you strip out the "Amazon" and "AI" stuff, the core seems to be that there's a tech company offering a service called Buy For Me which crawls various merchants who operate their own storefronts, lists the products they find for Buy For Me's users, and have a button the users can press which...buys the product. Which is a little odd, and the value is questionable, but fundamentally seems...fine? You're a…

If I were a merchant and I was bothered by this, I’d start figuring out how to exploit it. Ask your developers to code in the ability to detect the AI buyer (email address is a dead giveaway for now) and give them higher prices. Oh, you have an automated buy-bot? I smell opportunity.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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Remember when AI was supposed to cure cancer?

It is scumbags expanding on their nasty ways. Now watch the vampires at Amazon extend their undercut-and-absorb techniques on every single web shop, whether the operators like it or not.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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post #22

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Don’t worry. If Amazon decided to undercut by selling at a loss, they would absolutely put it in their ToS that retailers cannot exploit this loophole and they would sue to enforce their ToS.

These manufacturers never signed any ToS, and the most Amazon could do to retaliate would be to de-list the product that they never asked to be listed in the first place.

When the manufacturer buys their own product via Amazon’s service they would become subject to their TOS as a buyer.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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post #22

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But then brands could buy their own products back for cheaper and just get a real life infinite money glitch?

Don’t worry. If Amazon decided to undercut by selling at a loss, they would absolutely put it in their ToS that retailers cannot exploit this loophole and they would sue to enforce their ToS.

Retailers could put into their TOS that they are exempt from those clauses when buying things bought from them.
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