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Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

#4
Overtones designed to stoke outrage aside, this is very much in line with what the original vision of the Web was about. Amazon's tech here is acting as the user agent. (It happens to be that this UA that operates on/with the data that is supplied by some far-off website (the vendor's) is a UA that is itself presented in a web browser and accepts commands that way, and ferries them off the user's local device instead of processing the commands in right there e.g. with a native binary.)

This is a win for user control over how they interact with content on the Web.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

#5

Overtones designed to stoke outrage aside, this is very much in line with what the original vision of the Web was about. Amazon's tech here is acting as the user agent. (It happens to be that this UA that operates on/with the data that is supplied by some far-off website (the vendor's) is a UA that is itself presented in a web browser and accepts commands that way, and ferries them off the user's local device instead…

Crazy take. If you could control the UA I would agree with you, but this "user agent" is totally controlled by Amazon. So it's not a user agent at all - it's in fact an Amazon agent and the inevitable direction here is that Amazon will use this leverage to make itself more money, likely at the expense of the user.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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post #2

Is this like when food delivery places started offering fake web sites for local restaurants without their permission? This seems like the same play.

Yep. Up next: Amazon will mark the items up 15%.

No - the obvious play here is for Amazon to undercut the original vendors by 15%, sell at a loss until all of the sales go through Amazon, and then pressure the vendors into cutting their pricing and becoming suppliers subservient to and dependent on Amazon, allowing Amazon to become a middle-man dipping into the revenue stream.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

#7

Overtones designed to stoke outrage aside, this is very much in line with what the original vision of the Web was about. Amazon's tech here is acting as the user agent. (It happens to be that this UA that operates on/with the data that is supplied by some far-off website (the vendor's) is a UA that is itself presented in a web browser and accepts commands that way, and ferries them off the user's local device instead…

If user agents didn’t exist and were invented today, with the same implementation and use pattern that they currently do, would anyone call them a user agent?

I’m fairly confident that 95%+ of human users on the internet don’t even know what a user agent is, and it’s controlled by parties other than the user.

It’s not a win for user control if only a extremely small niche of users are able to take advantage of it

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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When Amazon can buy stuff on your own website thats out of stock for wholesale prices without your knowledge, it's time to get your shit together. Your shop software is at least misconfigured.

When you really lose trust from your partners because officially announced things Amazon does, like adding your products to their shop system, then your partners have no trust in you at all.

When you don't want that Amazon sells your products, cancel the orders you get from them. Add a link to the real shop and a explaination why to the cancel mail.

It could all be so easy. And this are just the things everyone could do. Delivering doubled prices to AI crawlers would be a advanced thing.

Re: Brands upset Buy For Me is featuring their products on Amazon without permission

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Up next: Amazon will mark the items up 15%.

No - the obvious play here is for Amazon to undercut the original vendors by 15%, sell at a loss until all of the sales go through Amazon, and then pressure the vendors into cutting their pricing and becoming suppliers subservient to and dependent on Amazon, allowing Amazon to become a middle-man dipping into the revenue stream.

But then brands could buy their own products back for cheaper and just get a real life infinite money glitch?
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