Neat concept and very inspirational. Is ascii/unicode text UI the way to go here or is there other UI formats even more suited for LLMs?
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#13You might believe that TUI is neutral, but it really isn't - there's a bajillion of different ways to make a TUI / CLI.
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#14I won't speculate on whether the post is AI-written or whether the author has adopted quirks from LLM outputs into their own way of writing because it doesn't really matter. Something about this "feeling" in the writing causes me discomfort, and I don't even really know why. It's almost like a tightness in my jaw or a slight ache in my molars.
Every time I read something like, "Not as an aesthetic choice. Not as nostalgia. *But as a thinking tool*" in an article I had until then taken on faith was produced in the voice of a human being feels like a let down. Maybe it's just the sense that I believed I was connecting with another person, albeit indirectly, and then I feel the loss of that. But that's not entirely convincing, because I genuinely found the points this article was making interesting, and no doubt they came originally from the author's mind.
Since this is happening more and more, I'd be interested to hear what others' experiences with encountering LLM-seeming blog posts (especially of inherently interesting underlying content) has been like.
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#15Like the idea, but this is definitely Unicode and not ASCII. It's hard to believe someone finished a piece of this length but still misunderstood, especially when some examples have emoji in them. Alternately, they chose a misleading name on purpose. Why? Someone mentioned TUI, which sidesteps the issue entirely.
I agree that "TUI" is a better fit though. But not TUI-driven-development, more like TUI-driven-design, followed by using the textual design as a spec (i.e. spec-driven development) to drive GUI implementation via coding agents.
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#17Neat concept and very inspirational. Is ascii/unicode text UI the way to go here or is there other UI formats even more suited for LLMs?
I wonder if this has any real benefits over just doing very simple html wireframing with highly constrained css, which is readily renderable for human consumption. I guess pure text makes it easier to ignore many stylistic factors as they are harder to represent if not impossible. But I'm sure that LLMs have a lot more training data on html/css, and I'd expect them to easily follow instructions to produce html/css for a mockup/wireframe.
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#18None are mentioned. E.g I made https://cascii.app for exactly this purpose.
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#19The examples are using non-ASCII characters. They also don’t render with a consistent grid on all (any?) browsers.
Maybe they meant plain-text-driven development?