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Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

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Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#101

Among all the destruction Apple has wrought when they killed DarkSky, they also failed to bring back the weather history feature. You could go back decades and see the weather anytime, anywhere. I miss it so.

The Apple Weather app absolutely sucks. I have learned to ignore its predictions. It will say that it's sunny outside, and I'll look out the window, and we're having a hailstorm.

Can anyone recommend a good app to replace it? No ads, lightweight etc.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#102

So what happened with previous customers who (I'm presuming) paid for the app? Did their app keep running or were they given a refund? I am guessing it used publicly available weather data, but even then, if the server names changed (and support was ended), wouldn't the app quit working?

I was an android user when it went offline. When Apple bought it they kind of mothballed it for a year or so, no updates but it still worked. Then they took the apps off the stores, but the API was still enabled for a lil while longer, so other services still functioned for the most part.

Then one day it just stopped working and it all went away. But it took apple ~18 months or so to kill it off, if I remember right.

But there was never any refund or whatnot.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#103
post #31

Oh how I miss DarkSky, and accuracy in weather apps in general. I have no idea if it is AI or just enshitification, but wow, local temps are just always way off with Apple Weather and most other apps. This is important to me because I live in my van and I am talking about these apps being off 5 to 10 degrees. The only one that comes close is Accuweather but their interface is horrific. And forget about the widgets...…

Checkout forecast advisor. It ranks forecasting services for a location and gives you a summary forecast based on all the different services for that location.

Whenever I travel I find it pretty helpful. Certain services are just garbage in some areas.

For example, Foreca is like 84% accurate for my home location, but it's only 60% accurate for one of the cabins I frequent.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#104
Rain radar is something I'm always looking at online, it's easy to fast forward from an hour back and see whats about to hit you.

I think that would make a great single purpose mobile app - automatically knows where the sources of information are and shows you the rain - where it was, and where it is going.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#105

I thought we lived in the age of infinite AI software and you could just ask for a Dark Sky clone. Weather APIs are pretty open. What's stopping you?

Why did you think AI has the capability of creating an app with a ton of care and unique touch put into it as opposed to some hello world/proof of concept skeleton app?

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#106

Fortunately someone recreated a clone at https://merrysky.net , which was featured [1] on HN some time ago. I've used it daily since. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34155191

Great rec! Thanks! See also Windy.app (a paid app w/ great dataviz, dx, and robust set of data sources).

for what it's worth, most people i know prefer windy.com over windy.app

Windy.app is for wind based water activities. Windy.com is a data-heavy weather information site.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#107

To those who are interested in viewing the “shape” of weather data (and who are using an apple device), I cannot recommend https://www.weatherstrip.app enough. I think its visualization is even superior to Dark Sky’s, mostly by virtue of being more compact without losing anything.

I liked that idea but found it a little busy so I started working on the weather layout I always wish I had. Heavily inspired by Weather Line, Dark Sky, NOAA line view but attempting to make it single screen: https://www.threads.com/@johnsheehan/post/DTHnd_HDbRM

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#108

After darksky was shutdown I ended up using, https://www.yr.no/en . I've not seen it recommended here before and thought someone might enjoy it

For the ones who might be interested, Yr.no uses the ECMWF (European weather model) as their main data source. This model scores the best on benchmarks of the global weather models (available for the whole world), but AI models are catching up on some parameters. Still, there are local weather models available with a much higher resolution (these are regional and only have forecasts up to a couple days). Examples are ICON-D2, Arome, Harmonie for parts of Europe, and HRRR for the US. I'm not sure which apps use these models though.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#109
post #66

After darksky was shutdown I ended up using, https://www.yr.no/en . I've not seen it recommended here before and thought someone might enjoy it

They've also got a developer interface - https://developer.yr.no One of the things that I've seen with them that I haven't seen with others is the cloud cover by layer. https://www.yr.no/en/details/graph/2-6301678/United%20States... https://www.yr.no/en/details/table/2-6301678/United%20States... For doing photography (sunsets) there's a significant difference between 50% high clouds and 50% low clouds.

I know that this is shameless self-promotion, but maybe this could interest you: https://sunsethue.com/ :)

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#110
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does it compare to Dark Sky?

Try meteogram

Bummer. It looks cool but no updates in five years. That doesn't bother me, except I wonder when Apple will kick it off the store. It also doesn't say anything about the privacy and data collected.
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