Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15 • Hacker News Board

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by drunner » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:01 PM UTC

hn8726 wrote: post #222

kubb wrote: post #183

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I think the F-150 is the most popular. I know many people don’t care about other’s subjective experiences, but it’s always such a mindfuck to my EU mind when I see trucks of this size. Like my brain expects the car to finish, but there’s more car. Then it happens again and again in a quick succession. It confuses me, I shake it off. I look at the car again. The bed is empty, there’s one person in it. Then I think „wh…

From my experience, these trucks make much more sense on a road in the US. European roads are fairly small so these trucks look _even bigger_, whereas in the US everything is massive so the cars fit. Still, having to look _up_ to see the windshield is crazy and I hope it won't be normalized in the EU

They make little sense on any road though.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by emtel » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:02 PM UTC

thelastgallon wrote: post #123

The French seem to be very thoughtful people who solved multiple pesky problems permanently: 1) Guillotine for the super rich 2) Nuclear to power >70% 3) C15 for people, cows, craftsmen, mini house 4) TGV 5) french fries for the fastest carbohydrate delivery, handily beating rice I wish they bring back the first 3 and do some shorts, market them to the world. Fries are doing fine.

> Guillotine for the super rich

Can we not glorify mass executions on HN please? Bluesky is available if that's your thing.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by c22 » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:03 PM UTC

k4rli wrote: post #214

jeron wrote: post #208

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I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who are actually truck shopping right now The ranger is a great option for most people but one of my capabilities for the truck is to bring my bike to motorcycle track days. Usually I'd only take a single motorcycle, however track days are more fun with friends. to fit two motorcycles in the back of the Ranger, you need to adjust the angle of the handlebars awkwardly…

Trailers do exist and there is no good reason to drive a commercial vehicle every day for simple trips. It is also less expensive to use a trailer.

This is a great solution. I have a small utility trailer I use to move my dirtbike (and lots of other stuff!) I tow it with a CR-V.

Since I don't need the hauling capacity every day, or even every week, it's great to leave the trailer at home and park in more places.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by nottorp » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:06 PM UTC

pantalaimon wrote: post #82

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #37

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> The sane environmental stuff you mentioned has morphed into a requirement for deeply integrated electronic oversight Decent catalytic converters require an array of sensors, ECU, and ability to fine control the engine inputs to work - without them most large cities would become smog ridden hells.

If you have an electric vehicle you need none of that

For the price of that C15 (adjusted for inflation it seems) you may be able to buy a battery for an EV. Maybe.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by ozim » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:07 PM UTC

Typical technically correct content.

If you are person that doesn’t give a fuck about keeping up with Jones’s you just buy whatever does the job.

I could drive much better car but I don’t have to impress my neighbors.

Still with non-impressive car I get pushed around on the road by guys in big and impressive cars. But also I drive on defense anyway so I get them to go far away from me by letting them pass.

I am quite fit though not super big or anything and car I drive is attributable to old geezers or ladies. Once guy jumped out of the car to shout at me he took his tone two notches down quickly.

So technically you might be right but still there is whole human experience to deal with.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by blauditore » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:08 PM UTC

It's a global pandemic of oversized cars. People love SUVs because it makes them feel powerful and successful. Explanations why they need them are generally along the lines of "because we have kids" (but SUVs don't actually have that much space), or "because heavier means safer" (well yes, at the cost of others).

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by eloisant » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:09 PM UTC

piva00 wrote: post #15

blell wrote: post #6

He forgets the part where because of emissions requirements the C15 can't be driven in that scourge the people the author defends call "low emissions zones".

If you want to live in polluted areas there are plenty of places available on Earth for that, I believe most people would rather not. Low emissions zones are mostly in very densely populated areas where the impact of pollution is higher, not sure why you consider that a scourge. Could you expand on why?

People who don't live in France may not know why low emission zones are so stupid: it's not about how much pollution your car emits, but how old it is.

So you're not allowed to bring a 20 years old car even if it's small, light and as a result doesn't pollute that much (because of its low fuel consumption). However you're allowed to bring in your brand new SUV even if its emissions are much higher. In fact it doesn't matter how much your SUV pollutes, it's recent so it's "fine".

Do you know you usually drive 20+ cars? Poor people. Do you know who loves restrictions on old cars? Car manufacturers.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by haspok » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:09 PM UTC

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Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by otterley » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:11 PM UTC

NoGravitas wrote: post #186

jcpst wrote: post #99

First off, I agree with the point made, though I think a more reasonable comparison would be something like a subaru. The people I know who have to deal with excessive snow or mud on country roads commonly opt for that. Of course there’s the “men” who compensate for their lack of buldge with 350s, dualies, etc. If you don’t work a farm, those whips are dummm. That was a good perspective though- I grew up hearing Citr…

Maybe that's why Subarus are stereotyped as a lesbian car in the US. Instead of grandstanding, they "get the job done" (as the Chappell Roan song goes).

Unless you’re in the Pacific Northwest, in which case, they are issued to every new resident (myself included). Traded in my Ford Explorer for a Subaru Outback and could not be happier.

Re: Allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15

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Post by dpark » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 5:11 PM UTC

acheron wrote: post #234

k4rli wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trailers do exist and there is no good reason to drive a commercial vehicle every day for simple trips. It is also less expensive to use a trailer.

Yes, I’m sure that guy made the comment so he could get advice from HN’s top minds about how he doesn’t actually know what his requirements are.

Clearly he made the comment to justify to strangers on the internet why he needs to buy a bigger truck. Truly the need to “adjust the angle of the handlebars awkwardly” is a great burden.