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Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

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Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#53

Can someone explain why the main screen in iOS weather, below the current temperature, shows the high temperature to the left of the low temperature? In all other places in the app, the low is to the left of high.

Because most of Apple's designers do not have the discipline or the blessedly smaller scope to consistently output well designed interfaces anymore, and are riding the momentum of those that came before and the current of hot air of their own supply these days.

The idea that Apple is full of good designers should be forgotten. They're as mid and sloppy as any other large tech company.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#54
It wasn’t as much focused on high level information visualization as Dark Sky, but I also still miss the original Wunderground and its precipitation prediction cones and radar features that were accurate down to the second back before it was acquired by the weather channel, where it went to die of neglect.

This topic raises an issue I’ve had in mind for a while, companies are not realizing their true value when they sell out to some exit, as is evident by the fact that the companies Andy what they created end up being taken out behind the shed. If a competitor is willing to pay a certain amount without extreme pain to the point of convulsion or you don’t get air tight contract that prevents killing off the service/product without it remitting back to the founders or being made open source, you are being low-balled.

Taking the Wunderground example, those folks would have ended up owning the weather channel and probably buying or merging with Dark Sky and being the data provider to Apple instead of the Weather Channel characters (in case you don’t know about that entity) owning and killing off their baby.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#57

I thought we lived in the age of infinite AI software and you could just ask for a Dark Sky clone. Weather APIs are pretty open. What's stopping you?

Stop trying to hold VCs to account as they try to buy all the ram in the world with infinite pretend money and their infinite pretend profits to put in their infinite pretend GPUs and their infinite pretend capacity, supported by the infinite pretend infrastructure that will never exist that we will also be forced to pay for.

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate Is it not? The rainfall-per-minute over the next hour on iOS seems about the same accuracy as Dark Sky had -- I used Dark Sky for years. It wasn't perfect but it worked well enough, same as iOS did after. You can even scrub the precipitation map predictions and they look the same to me. I know the Dark Sky prediction accuracy was greatly dependent on where you…

I used the Dark Sky app since it came out in 2012. I used to consistently get notifications about precipitation with Dark Sky, that were consistently accurate. The Apple weather application seems less motivated to send me notifications with any sort of regularity. I almost never get them now, even with fresh iOS installs. I haven't moved either. And just anecdotally, Dark Sky was a delight to use. Apple Maps makes it…

OK, notifications aren't the same as accuracy though. Neither is delight. I'm just talking about the supposed drop in accuracy that I just don't see.

(And Apple notifications are a mess generally. I constantly have notifications for something yesterday only show up today. I'm not sure that has anything to do with Weather specifically, their whole notification priority system is borked.)

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#59

A really good Android open source alternative is Breezy Weather: https://github.com/breezy-weather/breezy-weather

Breezy Weather and Weather Master right now are IMO the two best open source weather apps on Android

https://github.com/PranshulGG/WeatherMaster

Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)

#60

Can someone explain why the main screen in iOS weather, below the current temperature, shows the high temperature to the left of the low temperature? In all other places in the app, the low is to the left of high.

Even worse: why do they use high/low based on calendar date rather than daily high and overnight low.

During a cold snap one cold night will show up as the low for two consecutive days instead of a single “overnight”

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