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Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by headShrinker »

thechut wrote: post #2

Another case of how Apple doesn't care about its customers. They offer the opt-out option but turn the service on by default and don't notify anyone. Good thing (for Apple) most of their customers have had too much koolaid to care.

What a ridiculous comment. Take your trolling comments somewhere else. Nearly every company is guilty of reusing collected data and almost always without telling customers.

Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by suyash »

headShrinker wrote: post #3
thechut wrote: post #2

Another case of how Apple doesn't care about its customers. They offer the opt-out option but turn the service on by default and don't notify anyone. Good thing (for Apple) most of their customers have had too much koolaid to care.

What a ridiculous comment. Take your trolling comments somewhere else. Nearly every company is guilty of reusing collected data and almost always without telling customers.

It's not a ridiculous comment. Do you work at Apple? What's wrong with him expressing his opinion. I feel the same way and belive we can have a discussion about what's right and what's wrong. I agree that most companies just automatically subscribe you in when they create new feature and they make it users responsibility to opt out but I hate it as much as most of us. At least they (including Apple) should be responsible of informing users if they decide to keep us opted in automatically. Tracking is not a joke, people are very concerned about it.

Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by radge »

thechut wrote: post #2

Another case of how Apple doesn't care about its customers. They offer the opt-out option but turn the service on by default and don't notify anyone. Good thing (for Apple) most of their customers have had too much koolaid to care.

This change was communicated in the iOS 5 beta over a year ago.

Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by mooism2 »

thechut wrote: post #2

Another case of how Apple doesn't care about its customers. They offer the opt-out option but turn the service on by default and don't notify anyone. Good thing (for Apple) most of their customers have had too much koolaid to care.

If you'd left out the final sentence I would have upvoted instead of downvoting.

Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by glasshead969 »

FWIW, The learn more link in Settings-> General -> About -> Advertising says "iOS 6 introduces the Advertising Identifier, a non-permanent, non-personal, device identifier, that apps will use to give you more control over advertisers’ ability to use tracking methods. If you choose to limit ad tracking, apps are not permitted to use the Advertising Identifier to serve you targeted ads. In the future all apps will be required to use the Advertising Identifier. However, until then you may still receive targeted ads."

Re: Apple Turns on iPhone Tracking in iOS6

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Post by jamesaguilar »

suyash wrote: post #4
headShrinker wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a ridiculous comment. Take your trolling comments somewhere else. Nearly every company is guilty of reusing collected data and almost always without telling customers.

It's not a ridiculous comment. Do you work at Apple? What's wrong with him expressing his opinion. I feel the same way and belive we can have a discussion about what's right and what's wrong. I agree that most companies just automatically subscribe you in when they create new feature and they make it users responsibility to opt out but I hate it as much as most of us. At least they (including Apple) should be respons…

It is counterfactual to say that Apple does not care about its customers. It does way too much for them to make that statement anything but ridiculous.

That said, it's also possible to recognize cases where their behavior might not be in the customers' best interests. Whether you think this is one of those cases probably depends on how much harm you think tracking does to the average consumer. Personally, I'm completely satisfied with their opt-out approach. People who care can opt out. The vast majority of people who don't* can receive more relevant advertisement. But I can accept that other people have different value functions where this approach would be considered less benign.

*And before someone quotes a survey where people claim to care, my personal view is that actions speak louder than words on this point. If you really care, you'd be taking steps to make yourself aware of what is happening on your phone and responding accordingly.

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