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Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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You can actually just choose to not be depressed too. Just skip the therapy and exercise altogether.

People just don’t get the context >.>

They get the context plenty fine. You're just wrong.

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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For a long time I used to be able to manage my exercise with depression. Eventually, it stopped working. I literally climbed a mountain, got to the top and felt nothing.

What got me out of that place was improv comedy lessons. Highly recommend to anyone. Improv schools and theatres should be as ubiquitous as gyms.

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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For a long time I used to be able to manage my exercise with depression. Eventually, it stopped working. I literally climbed a mountain, got to the top and felt nothing. What got me out of that place was improv comedy lessons. Highly recommend to anyone. Improv schools and theatres should be as ubiquitous as gyms.

Did you mean manage your depression with exercise?

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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Everyone is different, so I say this not to tell you how to feel but just to offer a different perspective: Walking in urban environments can be its own sort of joy. Cities (well, good ones anyway) are full of life and energy and humanity, have unexpected nooks and crannies, and a rich sense of dynamism and excitement. Even late at night (as long as you're safe), a quiet city can be a source of serenity and melanchol…

No. Urban environments suck to walk around. What you wrote is utter drivel. If one needs to justify it by quoting authors, that suggests it isn't self evident and they are just trying to justify something that they know isn't good.

What an unnecessarily hostile comment. "Utter drivel"? I was talking about how I personally feel. Am I just imagining enjoying the things that I enjoy?

Writers have, obviously, written about how walking in nature is nice. Does me saying that now mean that walking in nature is awful?

Maybe you're doing other people a favour by staying away from them, sheesh.

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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I bet simply having a dog needing walking tips the scales into an exercise routine at some level.

yes and then dog dies so you go back into a depression :(

and then you realize shelters/rescues are full of super healthy dogs yearning for a home, and same for cats, and then you go adopt at least one, and realize you've honored what your previous pet would want for you.

(speaking from experience, 5 rescues here now, lots of activity for lots of fun...thankful for WFH flexibility)

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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Over-eating is not strictly a choice. Corporations spend billions on manipulating the public because it works. Regulation is needed, not willpower.

I don't believe regulation is the answer. As I get older, I've become increasingly skeptical of any information coming from the government.

But somehow information from corporations is good and we should let me do whatever?

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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yes and then dog dies so you go back into a depression :(

and then you realize shelters/rescues are full of super healthy dogs yearning for a home, and same for cats, and then you go adopt at least one, and realize you've honored what your previous pet would want for you. (speaking from experience, 5 rescues here now, lots of activity for lots of fun...thankful for WFH flexibility)

not ready for that yet but i look forward to that future

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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Everyone is different, so I say this not to tell you how to feel but just to offer a different perspective: Walking in urban environments can be its own sort of joy. Cities (well, good ones anyway) are full of life and energy and humanity, have unexpected nooks and crannies, and a rich sense of dynamism and excitement. Even late at night (as long as you're safe), a quiet city can be a source of serenity and melanchol…

No. Urban environments suck to walk around. What you wrote is utter drivel. If one needs to justify it by quoting authors, that suggests it isn't self evident and they are just trying to justify something that they know isn't good.

What a bizarre response.

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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We have a certain amount of "willpower" that can overcome motivational barriers. This willpower is limited, though. It's very helpful to have clear guidance on where to allocate this very limited resources, especially in situations where people are otherwise struggling. All of which is to say -- these exhortations can play a useful role. :)

AIUI, the whole "certain amount of willpower" was a misunderstanding / exaggeration / bullshit claim that's not really held to be true anymore.

Source? I'd love to learn more about this!

Re: Exercise can be nearly as effective as therapy for depression

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and people wonder why i call psychiatrists legal drug dealers - what incentive does a psychiatrist have to fix someone , when they could make 10x more money keeping that person dependant forever

Any psychotherapist, and mainly psychiatrists, tries to create a heavy dependence to their patents, not so chemical but behavioral and psychological, which they call patient bonding. They don't want to instruct the patient and make them independent. It's shown that this causes a consistent improvement and simultaneously establishes their dominance long-term.

> Any psychotherapist ... tries to create a heavy dependence to their patents, not so chemical but behavioral and psychological, which they call patient bonding.

This world view is extreme, not true, and directly harmful to your mental health.

You should consider talking to a psychotherapist about why you feel that way :^)

In all seriousness, the world is a much more pleasant place when you discard extremist views and accept the good with the bad.

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