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Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by on_the_train »

dleslie wrote: post #8

This was a validating read. I used a Samsung G9 OLED for the better part of a year and eventually had to stop because the eye strain was terrible. I found myself avoiding my desk because it was a chore to look at the display. I've moved back to using a pair of 4K LCDs that I had, and honestly the resolution and aspect ratio are better for text and programming anyhow.

LCD is just the better technology. Besides what this article is about, OLED have awful burning and longevity problems. They're great for watching movies on the first month (and that's what gets them sold), but really not much else.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by pansa2 »

> OLEDs make great TVs and gaming monitors [...] But on desktop monitors for still things — text and fine lines — OLEDs currently just aren’t great

It seems that LCD has long been the best technology for desktop monitors - but interestingly, despite its popularity, may never have been the best technology for TVs. CRT, plasma and now OLED have all had better image quality than contemporary LCDs.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by JoshTriplett »

amlib wrote: post #15
JoshTriplett wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Personally, I find WOLED quite comfortable, especially for text, since I spend 90% of my time looking at terminals: white text on a black background. Having the vast majority of the display off feels wonderful.

I'm also on an WOLED with no DPI scaling and also find it easy on the eyes. I do have to disable subpixel hinting though, afaik there is none optimized for anything other than traditional RGB or BGR. I don't think it's a big deal since I usually don't like it on RGB LCDs anyway...

> I do have to disable subpixel hinting though, afaik there is none optimized for anything other than traditional RGB or BGR. I don't think it's a big deal since I usually don't like it on RGB LCDs anyway...

Yeah, I've had subpixel antialiasing disabled for a long time, since before my first OLED; I prefer grayscale antialiasing.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by wolvoleo »

ksec wrote: post #46
aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

My Friend on a 30Hz Phone Screen because of battery saving mode said the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz is so minor, that in "In practice, it's been unnoticeable." At one point in time 95%+ of HN comments were cheering on about Atom the text editor and later VSCode as being fast enough or unnoticeable. When Sublime user are baffled as to why. And Sublime isn't the fastest text editor either before Zed came out. Yes…

Yes this. I don't use screens below 200dpi anymore (right now I have 4K on 24", at 200% scaling) and many people say that it's a waste because it's way too high. But I can still see pixels that are off. I just love sharp text. Which everyone is used to on their phones, I don't understand why people don't want the same on their computer which they probably use a lot more hours per day (I sure do)

I'm sure I would notice and be annoyed by this fringing too unless the pixels were so small I really couldn't see them. Probably needs to be slightly higher than 200 then. But I haven't seen oled monitors with such high DPIs. The highest I've seen is 4K on 27" which wouldn't even do for me on LCD.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by CrossVR »

I never had any problems with QD-OLED and never saw any color fringing. But it turns out I'm red-green colorblind, so I probably just can't see enough contrast between red and green to notice the fringing.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by fancy_pantser »

aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

I use smaller fonts as well and when I first got an older OLED display with a pixel layout not supported by Windows ClearType, I used BetterClearTypeTuner and later MacType to adjust it. It was leagues better after tweaking a few settings and I'm very happy with text now, even on my AW3425DW, which has an older layout they moved on from in recent generations.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by rabf »

ksec wrote: post #46
aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

My Friend on a 30Hz Phone Screen because of battery saving mode said the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz is so minor, that in "In practice, it's been unnoticeable." At one point in time 95%+ of HN comments were cheering on about Atom the text editor and later VSCode as being fast enough or unnoticeable. When Sublime user are baffled as to why. And Sublime isn't the fastest text editor either before Zed came out. Yes…

When people ask what computer they should buy I always tell them to get any old office computer from ebay and use the rest of the money to buy a really nice monitor, and a really nice keyboard and mouse, as these are the bits you use! For most tasks that are undertaken on a computer any processor from the last 10 years coupled with 16GB of ram is more than sufficient.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by marticode »

modeless wrote: post #21

I can't bring myself to get an OLED when I know it will get the taskbar and window decorations burned into it after a few years. One day if they invent one with truly zero burn-in I'll consider it.

Same here. OLED is fine for gamers who use it a couple hours here and there but for a system that's on 8+ hour per day with a taskbar and the usual work apps, this is just not adequate.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by usagisushi »

chatmasta wrote: post #25

Dell monitors are very hit or miss for me. I’ve got two with very similar model numbers to the OP. One of them has a straight vertical line of red pixels at (30%, 0%). The other doesn’t have an integrated webcam. Meanwhile I’ve got an MSI OLED 32” 240Hz @ 4k monitor which was super expensive but is absolutely incredible. It takes getting used to a monitor that performs a maintenance routine on itself any time you lea…

> Meanwhile I’ve got an MSI OLED 32” 240Hz @ 4k monitor

Off topic, but JFYI, with last year's firmware update (OLED CARE 2.0), you can now delay the refresh notification for up to 24 hours. I haven't seen the notification pop up since updating.

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