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Not every comment about Germany requires a mention of a dark past.
I mean when Germany is jailing people for being "offensive" it's hard not too.
You are confidently incorrect, very impressive.
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Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
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I mean I dislike JD Vance as much as the next guy, but I don't see how it's unreasonable to appeal to the federal government for assistance in dealing with international legal issues. That's very much in the government's remit.
Lawyers are for legal issues. Do you call your government if you get a fine in a foreign country? Unless it’s life threatening I doubt that.
You do when the fine is more than double your annual revenue in the foreign nation, has international and geopolitical implications, impacts many other US businesses, could harm foreign relations, and will harm regular US citizens.
That's exactly the type of thing the Executive Branch is supposed to deal with.
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, I'm not taking lessons in democracy from JD Vance, thank you very much You are falling into a trap where you can not recognize a true point because it is made by someone you disagree with. I don't condone Vance or the Trump admin. He is right about European governemnt's attacks on free speech.
And you are falling into the trap of thinking that if a person is busy deconstructing what used to be one of the larger democracies in the world that their other words are going to be taken at face value, which obviously is not going to happen. We're not discussing Pol Pot's views on cooking either, even though he might have had some valuable insight. Bringing up Vance and Musk in polite conversation to bolster your…
> And you are falling into the trap of thinking that if a person is busy deconstructing what used to be one of the larger democracies in the world that their other words are going to be taken at face value, which obviously is not going to happen.
No. I'm identifying this one statement as factual, regardless of the person saying it. Surely then, you would not deny the color of the sun to be yellow just because Pot might have observed it to be that way?
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His hubris isn't news. Remember when he woke up in the middle of the night and blocked some website because he personally didn't like it?
No, haven't heard that story. Can you share a source?
I suspect this is referring to the removal (not block) of The Daily Stormer in 2017[0].
[0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
#455I'm Italian, and as much as I think Piracy Shield shouldn't exist, I find hard to empathize with Cloudflare, especially after this tweet. First off, the immediate appeal to Vance and Musk is embarrassing. I believe he knows he's technically in the wrong for not abiding to the law, so gathering the sympathy of the "freedom fighters" of the web is all he can do. But the funniest part about this tweet are the "threats"…
Really? A group of people who were elected by nobody, should, without any accountability or due process, be able to ban any website they don't like from the internet? And not just for Italians but globally? Even if you think this is a great thing for Italians (I have no idea why anyone would think that), you expect the whole world to surrender to this absurd demand? Categorical imperative???
Piracy Shield only works within Italy. No provider has ever been expected to take down sites globally in response to a Piracy Shield trigger, or has ever done so.
Also read the start of the comment. See this?
> as much as I think Piracy Shield shouldn't exist
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, haven't heard that story. Can you share a source?
I suspect this is referring to the removal (not block) of The Daily Stormer in 2017[0]. [0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/
Oh, there's also Kiwifarms in 2022: https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
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> obviously an idiot praising Vance's and Elon's actions He praised their opinions on free speech. You should be able to differentiate a single opinion objectively from the people holding them.
He actually praised Vance role as a defender of democratic values, but Vance is known to deny Greenlands souvereignity, ready to capitulate to a russian dictator, indifference to police killing a protester recently, etc.
His idea of free speech does not include critical reporting. The wider US government is trying to shut down the BBC with a lawsuit or has public officials threaten individual journalists to their face, basically nothing is too large or too small.
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
#458some good takes in this response but complementing jd and elon was absolutely not necessary
It was necessary to get them to take action. The only thing the current administration cares about is public image so publicly fellating them is what you need to do to get them to go to bat on your behalf.
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
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I just want to point out that AGCOM once decided to put out an "Economically Relevant Instagram Influencers Register". They're not really... let's say, 'on the ball' for understanding how the internet works. It's a bit of a running joke in Italy that their decisions are often anachronistic or completely misunderstanding of the actual technology behind the scenes. And for the most part they just deliberate, they have…
If we truly want to point out the ridiculousness of Italian tech regulations, the influencers' registry, the temporary ChatGPT ban from a few years back or even the new AI regulations cannot hold a candle to the 22-year-old war on... arcade games . A poorly written regulation from 2003 basically lumped together all gaming machines in a public setting with gambling, resulting in extremely onerous source code and serve…
Reminds me of US Pinball laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinball#Relation_to_gambling
Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines
#460Given the La Liga situation in Spain with Cloudflare you can't really say he is wrong. But his MAGA comments make me ashamed to be a Cloudflare customer.