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Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by speff »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #83
Arbortheus wrote: post #12

I agree with the CEO, while also feeling a bit nauseous at the MAGA Musk suck-up at the end - I suppose this is the game you have to play with this current administration.

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Google and Verizon were under fire recently from the DOJ for not complying with the govt's anti-DEI stance quickly enough[0]. If these policies truly aren't in the companies best interests, they would've dropped the policies on Jan 20th. Instead, they chose to continue them. I don't see how this squares with your assertion that they don't want to continue following DEI in staffing.

[0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/doj-targets-google...

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by jimnotgym »

linkregister wrote: post #205
anticristi wrote: post #28

This is great news! Who would have expected Cloudflare to truly contribute to EU digital sovereignty. On a more serious note, I'm surprised Cloudflare wants to pull out of Italy. Being a company which terminates TLS connections for Italy must be a gold mine for the NSA.

Cloudflare and other US tech companies base business decisions on revenue (and apparently on emotion), not allegiance to government agencies that have fallen out of fashion.

The NSA don't pay?

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by [deleted] »

pluralmonad wrote: post #260

I think maybe I should seek out AI art for awhile. I know this is where everything is going and I'm tired of cringing so hard every time one of these AI gen'd images is used in a serious way. But that image at the bottom of the tweet makes the entire post seem less serious to me.

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Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by ExpertAdvisor01 »

Foxboron wrote: post #47

So blocking Kiwifarms took.. months of activism and loud complaining. Heraled by Matthew as "this is an extraordinary decision for us to make and, given Cloudflare's role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with". However a fine that amounts to ~0.7% of the annual revenue and they threaten to block an entire country?

Actually, the fine amounts to over 200% of Italy-sourced revenue ($17 million fine vs. $8 million in revenue in 2024). Why would you continue doing business in Italy?

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by subsistence234 »

qsort wrote: post #135
alanfranz wrote: post #49

Italian here. If somebody wants to read the full document about the fine (in italian) it's here: https://www.agcom.it/sites/default/files/provvedimenti/delib... Part of this doc states: ``` The rights holders also declared, under their own responsibility, providing certified documentary evidence of the current nature of the unlawful conduct, that the reported domain names and IP addresses were unequivocally intended…

Also Italian. I think everybody sucks here? Most Italian authorities like this one are chock full of incompetents, and I'm almost sure they're just caving in to some soccer broadcaster or some crap like that. He might very well be fully correct on the fact of the matter. Still, the rhetoric of the post is frankly disgusting. No, I'm not taking lessons in democracy from JD Vance, thank you very much. No, I don't think…

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Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by ShowalkKama »

kelvinjps10 wrote: post #245
alanfranz wrote: post #49

Italian here. If somebody wants to read the full document about the fine (in italian) it's here: https://www.agcom.it/sites/default/files/provvedimenti/delib... Part of this doc states: ``` The rights holders also declared, under their own responsibility, providing certified documentary evidence of the current nature of the unlawful conduct, that the reported domain names and IP addresses were unequivocally intended…

Is this similar to what happened in Spain?

yes, it's quite similar. They blocked some lawful services too such as google drive (yes, really) and a TON of sites behind cloudflare by blocking some of its IPs (it happened a while ago, it's not directly related to this).

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

As a non-American (and non-European) I got the foul stench of ‘American upset that other legal jurisdictions exist’ before I even finished the first sentence. The absolute slathering on of such emotive language feels very disingenuous. It’s immediately obvious that I’m being taken for some sort of ride. I can picture Kyle’s dad from South Park, at his computer, with his glass of red, writing his Yelp reviews. I genuinely don’t know how anyone can write like this and think that it’s a good look.

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by miltonlost »

deadbabe wrote: post #46
Arbortheus wrote: post #12

I agree with the CEO, while also feeling a bit nauseous at the MAGA Musk suck-up at the end - I suppose this is the game you have to play with this current administration.

It really doesn’t matter what administration is in charge, at a certain level you have to curry favor with whatever administration is in power and hold your true motives close to your chest. People seem to think what people say in public is perfect knowledge of their true intentions. No. What they say is what they want someone to hear them say. There is nothing to gain by saying what you really feel, no one can prove…

You really don't have to praise fascists.

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by tekkk »

While he has a point and Italians are kinda embarrassing in their politics, can't help the feeling that he comes off as a bit of cry-baby. Trying to win points with the JD/Musk mafia that hard seems weird and icky. Seems like signaling to other billionaire bros that they belong to their faction, which in my books isn't that great either. That last uppercase line a cherry on top of shattering my image of CF as respectable tech-vendors.

Re: Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Post by [deleted] »

pluralmonad wrote: post #260

I think maybe I should seek out AI art for awhile. I know this is where everything is going and I'm tired of cringing so hard every time one of these AI gen'd images is used in a serious way. But that image at the bottom of the tweet makes the entire post seem less serious to me.

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