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Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by SoleilAbsolu »

teiferer wrote: post #20
Fraterkes wrote: post #13

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I'm normally in the camp of "why flood HN with AI crap" and if you are not a musician then I can see why this seems unnecessary. But as a musician, this is a great learning tool. Every musician should be able to play by ear (and I had to ramp up the difficulty substantially to get a bit of a challenge). AI generated or not, this is useful.

Yeah I've been playing 40 years and did a stint in music school. Other than fat-fingered note entry errors my ear nailed all the ones I did. IMO this seems to start from a pretty advanced level off the bat.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by recursive »

Fraterkes wrote: post #13

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I've been playing piano for 40 years, tend to hate anything with AI-buzzwords anywhere adjacent to it. But I generally think this particularly one is a good thing.

Curious what you mean by no attempt to teach. We learn multiplication tables by rote. Are flash cards a genuine instrument of learning? The only way to learn intervals is to practice identifying them. This is how you do it. You can read about music theory (and should) but the only way to build your listening skills is to practice it starting with basic stuff.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by evanmoran »

This is great! Please consider even easier settings for kids. Maybe 2 notes (not 4) as the min starting point and slower ramp up as you succeed.

Also, I think the missed the first note UI could feel a little nicer. Something about the popup/hiding the music takes you out of the flow. Possibly just a subtitle would be enough with an encouraging message. There is a big difference between failing to do the whole pattern and failing the first note so definitely worth refining the feedback here.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by aspaviento »

user574275 wrote: post #25
jbl0ndie wrote: post #18

I'd like more tries to pick out the notes when pecking at the on-screen keyboard. I don't need to hear the pattern again, I need to learn where the note pitches are on the keyboard.

Is that teaching a bad habit though? Is it one of those things where's importantly to be confidently wrong or right?

One of the important keys in learning is engagement. If you frustrate the student preventing them from progressing at their own rhythm they will disengage, losing interest in what you are teaching.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by allenu »

It's a very cool little game! One suggestion: could you make it so you can noodle around on the keyboard without submitting the answer and then once you've worked it out, have a submission mode? Right now, it's frustrating that if you enter a wrong note, it shows a message, so you can't experiment on the keyboard to try to work it out.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by allenu »

RyanOD wrote: post #24

I took several years of Suzuki piano method when I was a kid. Suzuki focuses initially on developing the ear. During lessons, we did this kind of stuff all the time. I would close my eyes and my instructor would play a series of notes and I would need to play them back by ear. I would also listen to whatever song I was learning before I went to be bed and again when I woke up in the morning, visualizing every note. G…

It's really a great way to train your ear, and fun, too. I can play ukulele, but mostly just to strum and play songs to, but a few years ago I just started picking notes to try to recreate melodies of songs I knew or heard recently. At first it was slow-going with lots of searching on the fret for the right note, but over time I worked up the skill to mostly get the melody on the first few tries. It was the most amazing feeling to realize I could listen to a song and then reproduce it by ear.

I found that it's also an excellent way to "feel" the structure of a melody as well since you're essentially building it up again. Of course you could read music to see the actual melody, but working it out this way feels a bit more intimate.

Re: Show HN: I made a memory game to teach you to play piano by ear

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Post by user574275 »

aspaviento wrote: post #37
user574275 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that teaching a bad habit though? Is it one of those things where's importantly to be confidently wrong or right?

One of the important keys in learning is engagement. If you frustrate the student preventing them from progressing at their own rhythm they will disengage, losing interest in what you are teaching.

Both things can be true though, right?

Maybe it just needs to reset faster or maybe start more gradually so you can build up muscle memory of intervals.

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