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Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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I found WebKit to be very power efficient and it shows website just as other browser. What’s the issue ?

To some extent, Chrome* is the new IE. Not in that it's as shitty as IE ever was. But it's the dominant browser engine and folks are neglecting to test on other browser engines altogether as a result. They see "Works on Chrome" and move on to other things. I still encounter websites with rendering or performance issues on Firefox that Chrome based browsers don't have. * I meant Chrome not webkit.

That is Blink, not Webkit. Both have diverged significantly enough over the last fifteen-odd years to be counted as separate engines, even if one is a fork of the other.

I primarily use Safari — same story here as with you and Firefox.

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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Orion has come an extremely long ways on iOS and macOS. I daily drove it for a couple months maybe a year and a half ago and it had a lot of little rough edges and was slightly broken on a number of websites.

I’ve picked it up again as my daily driver as of the new year and haven’t had a single issue yet. It even blocks ads in YouTube now - only Brave did that previously.

For me - Brave was the best browser product. It’s ad blocking is truly phenomenal and nearly every site “just works”. But I don’t love the ethics of Brave and certainly not its founder. So I am extremely excited to have Orion take over that niche of the browser space that I most care about.

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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I've been a Kagi user for months now and was really looking forward to testing this. However, I cannot find the download link. The page does not really contain any information on an actual release. EDIT: I found this in the docs: > The alpha version of Orion for Linux is currently only available to [Orion+ supporters](../orion-plus/orion-plus.md) and can be downloaded from the [Billing Dashboard]( https://kagi.com/se…

Yeah I don’t see it on https://orionbrowser.com anywhere. It’s probably a private alpha.

Found it

https://cdn.kagi.com/flatpaks/oriongtk.alpha.external.flatpa...

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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It seems weird to run a closed-source browser on an open-source operating system when so many open alternatives exist—I certainly wouldn’t do it, and I’m a Kagi customer. Does Kagi plan to open-source Orion on Linux?

Especially because WebKit’s lineage goes all the way back to KHTML. It’s nice to see KHTML come home to Linux but it does need to be open source.

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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Just submitted feedback as well. This is honestly what’s holding me back from buying a Kagi subscription at this point. Here is what I submitted: I’m requesting that iOS Safari allow users to set any search engine as their default, rather than limiting choices to a pre-approved list. Currently, Safari only offers Google, Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, and Ecosia, preventing users from choosing legitimate alternatives like…

Don't let this hold you back. Use a mobile browser that lets you use Kagi; it's worth it.

Or even better, a computer that does things when told.

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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This is a healthy thing to happen to the Linux browser ecosystem imho. We talk a lot about browser diversity, but on Linux and Windows, it is a lie. You have firefox (gecko) and fifty flavors of chromium. Webkit on Linux has essentially been relegated to embedded devices or the GNOME epiphany browser, which I'll admit while is a noble effort, lags a bit in the stability and power-user features department. Big reason…

> The sticking point like always will be media playback (read: DRM/widevine).

Probably true in general. But for me, that's not a sticking point at all. I don't care if a browser supports media playback or not.

What I do care about is the ability to enable/disable embedded code execution (JS, at the very least) at a fairly granular level. Does Orion allow for that?

Re: Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux

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Just submitted feedback as well. This is honestly what’s holding me back from buying a Kagi subscription at this point. Here is what I submitted: I’m requesting that iOS Safari allow users to set any search engine as their default, rather than limiting choices to a pre-approved list. Currently, Safari only offers Google, Bing, Yahoo, DuckDuckGo, and Ecosia, preventing users from choosing legitimate alternatives like…

Don't let this hold you back. Use a mobile browser that lets you use Kagi; it's worth it.

The problem is that I like how Safari works better than any other mobile browser I have used. Wish I didn’t.
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