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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by stackskipton »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #62
stackskipton wrote: post #51

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It's much more difficult to block. A lot of anti censorship organizations have trouble getting more IPv4 /24 for cost reasons or moving it around to different AS since they would go offline. With IPv6, you can get IPv6 /40 from ARIN/RIPE no problem. You slice that up into /48 and just start bouncing it all over the place. When one /48 goes down, you move everything to another /48, switch providers if required and con…

> It's much more difficult to block. No it isn't. Nobody is blocking ranges as they roll in, they're blocking whole ASNs at once. That's just as trivial with v6 as v4, actually v6 can be simpler because ISPs tend to have fewer large blocks in v6land.

There are plenty of providers that when you BYOIP, they will broadcast out of their ASN, I know Azure does, Google appears to, no clue on AWS. Plenty of colo providers including $LastCompanyProvider will fold your IP block under their ASN as well. That's how it worked at last job.

Sure, Iran government may just decide to block that specific ASN but if it's they want to remain somewhat on the internet, they are stuck with "Smack entire broad ASNs and lose large chucks of internet" or "Block specific IP spaces."

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Post by chrneu »

SilentM68 wrote: post #140
coffeemug wrote: post #41

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Two counterintuitive/surprising lessons I've come to appreciate: 1.Talent pools in nation states are extraordinarily deep-- much deeper than they appear. Countries can suffer from brain drain for decades (or centuries!) but when conditions call for it, superbly talented people somehow manifest. 2. The correlation between talent and conscience is weak. Nation states always manage to find superbly talented people to wo…

I tend to agree with most of what you said regarding all governments and countries. What may not be widely known is that some authoritarian regimes have been accused by expatriates of identifying and indoctrinating intellectually gifted children into their state-sponsored organizations for use by these entities for unmentionable purposes. Of course, it's next to impossible to find written documentation, with specific…

>What may not be widely known is that some authoritarian regimes have been accused by expatriates of identifying and indoctrinating intellectually gifted children into their state-sponsored organizations

Literally every country does this. It's just perspective whether an individual thinks it's okay or not.

If you're on the side doing the indoctrination, you probably agree with it, or are indoctrinated yourself. We all are to some degree.

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Post by cramsession »

perching_aix wrote: post #217
cramsession wrote: post #207

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> The event was framed by authorities as a demonstration of national solidarity amid a backdrop of ongoing unrest and anti-government protests across multiple Iranian cities, which entered their second week

More:

https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2009060050527244311

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by perching_aix »

cramsession wrote: post #223
perching_aix wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The event was framed by authorities as a demonstration of national solidarity amid a backdrop of ongoing unrest and anti-government protests across multiple Iranian cities, which entered their second week

More: https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2009060050527244311

It just references the same underlying event, which your own source reports to be a counter-protest, directly falsifying your claim.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by cramsession »

perching_aix wrote: post #224
cramsession wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More: https://x.com/Safarnejad_IR/status/2009060050527244311

It just references the same underlying event, which your own source reports to be a counter-protest, directly falsifying your claim.

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Post by qbit42 »

cramsession wrote: post #220
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #216

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If pro Iran govt then why shutdown internet and shoot protestors?

We don’t know that Iran shutdown the internet, they never claimed to do that. Any “protesters” that got shot were Israeli plants. Mind you, the US actually shot and killed a real protester yesterday.

They did shut down the Internet. I cannot communicate with some Iranian friends right now.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by Noaidi »

bhhaskin wrote: post #163
Noaidi wrote: post #155

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Destroy the satellites? I mean all that have to do is screw up the trajectory of some of the satellites to cause exponential collisions...

Iran does not have that capability. But that would also be an act of war.

No, it wouldn’t be an act of war, it would be “a military operation”.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by cramsession »

qbit42 wrote: post #226
cramsession wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t know that Iran shutdown the internet, they never claimed to do that. Any “protesters” that got shot were Israeli plants. Mind you, the US actually shot and killed a real protester yesterday.

They did shut down the Internet. I cannot communicate with some Iranian friends right now.

That doesn’t mean Iran did that. Israel has been preparing to attack Iran again, and cyberattacks on their internet are a pretty obvious first step.

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Post by cestith »

switchbak wrote: post #88
uyzstvqs wrote: post #37

Can't wait for a certain dictator to get a cellmate, so that our Persian and Kurdish friends can have freedom, including free unrestricted internet access. And for fellow HN users from there, here's some great stuff: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://bitchat.free/

Sure, a US invasion of Iran would undoubtedly lead to good things. And how can you say the Kurds are friends of the USA (I'm presuming you mean friends of the USA) given how many times they've been abandoned? Just take a look at what happened to Libya, sometimes removing a "bad person" will cause a far worse situation to evolve. Like literal human slavery. I will never cease to be amazed at the amnesia that arises wh…

Sadly for the Kurds I’d say they are still pretty good friends to the US, as poorly as it’s been reciprocated.

As for the rest of what you said, no notes.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by themafia »

falaki wrote: post #30

Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow. [1] https://www.itu.int/en/…

> social media which has enabled analyses

Social media is such a narrow lens that I would be cautious accepting that analysis at face value.

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