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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Can Minnesota make a law that bans ICE from operating in the State? i.e Can states override federal authority? Seems like states should have the right to allow ICE. Police departments are already by state.

Unfortunately not. Federal law in this circumstance supersedes state authority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU... I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front. They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turn…

False narrative here. Watch the full length videos. This does not show what happened leading up to the issue. This lady was protesting ICE and physically driving her car into police officers. She refused multiple police orders, then attempted to murder a police officer with her car. She was justifiably shot in self defense.

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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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We are all cowards. A dozen people watched their friend murdered and all they did was shout 'murderers' and then back off from helping the corpse when instructed by the people in masks and unmarked cars claiming to be police. I surely wouldn't have been braver, we all saw the consequences of even the meakest assertiveness. Those people are the bravest we have to offer, we are fucked.

That's exactly my point.

Your point is apathy and fatalism. Someone who points to that doesn't believe in building infrastructure. They don't believe in building political power. They don't believe in building local community power.

They don't really believe in anything, and it's due to an inability in their own self to bring about real change in themselves and others.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5A12Z3kaxI Look at the comment section. Are they all bots? Maybe they are, but if they aren't, trying anything would be a suicide. You would just be labelled a terrorist, and no one would support you.

If you do it for the approval and validation of others, you might as well side with the downslopes. You do it for yourself and your own beliefs, some people will put a lot on the line for that - believe it or not.

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That's not why they are justifying it: they are justifying it because if they accept it they have to accept fractional responsibility for outcomes such as these and MAGA does not want anything to do with the negative fall out of their own actions.

From what I've observed solipsistic entitlement blaming everyone else while performing zero self-reflection is a core tenet of "MAGA". It's why boomers are attracted to it like flies to a rotting animal - they were promised everything for buying into the system and had the good life for "working hard", so if someone cannot repeat their "success" (nb. everything bubble) then it must be that person's own fault.

They're going to do (and are already doing) a lot of damage on the way to their final resting place.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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post #312
post #301

Can Minnesota make a law that bans ICE from operating in the State? i.e Can states override federal authority? Seems like states should have the right to allow ICE. Police departments are already by state.

Unfortunately not. Federal law in this circumstance supersedes state authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

I guess it would be a major step towards civil war, but I wonder if states have the right to protect their residents from unlawful conduct by federal law enforcement. ICE has established a clear pattern of behavior in the last year that should remove any assumption they are acting lawfully (and federal judges have told them as much).

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

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What's your point? That OP is exclusively referring to yesterday's execution when saying this admin deserves to get Nuremberg'd? Anyone calling for the Trump administration to face justice is obviously thinking of their many exactions, not any single isolated event. Including these blatant breaches of international law you mentioned.

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And there are still Americans defending this. Like they want to live in a dictatorship.

Keep in mind that many so-called "Americans" you see online are thousands of miles from the US, and are paid or otherwise encouraged to pretend otherwise.

A lot of them are just doing this for free, and got got too by the insane propaganda apparatus in service of the GOP, that converted so many Americans into defending straight up murder and pedophilia.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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I'm not debating that's the case in the vids we have but my question stands.

It does not. Even if what you speculated was true that is not a capital crime, and that 'officer' (I use the word lightly) is not judge, jury and executioner.

I'm not speculating anything which is why I was asking rofl. You online agitators are a funny bunch.
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