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Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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In the comments of his that I saw in recent threads I read, I liked this guy's taste in code. For me, that's pretty rare on HN.

What the heck happened? Was he seriously ill? Judging from the commments I saw, his mind was apparently in good shape.

RIP luriel and condolences to his family.

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

#23
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For anyone else who needs more context: http://www.advogato.org/person/uriel/ and http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=uriel edit: His more recent account was http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=luriel I dug up those links because I was completely unfamiliar with uriel before seeing this post, and know nothing more about this story than that. From reading his comments, he seemed like a really smart guy. It's really a…

Isn't https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=luriel the same guy? He was fairly active in all recent discussions about Go. What happened to him?

Here's hoping he died of old age surrounded by his loved ones after having lived a rich life.

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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For anyone else who needs more context: http://www.advogato.org/person/uriel/ and http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=uriel edit: His more recent account was http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=luriel I dug up those links because I was completely unfamiliar with uriel before seeing this post, and know nothing more about this story than that. From reading his comments, he seemed like a really smart guy. It's really a…

Isn't https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=luriel the same guy? He was fairly active in all recent discussions about Go. What happened to him?

His about section is kinda ironic now.

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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Seems like all public communication from uriel stopped about one year ago. Any idea what happened?

Enable the `showdead` option. He was hellbanned for voicing a dissenting opinion in a thread about sexism.

Yes, because "free speech" is nice and all, but there are some opinions that you should not have, even on a liberal place like Hacker News.

One should not be allowed to divert from popular opinion (be it popular in society in general, in some conservative circle, or merely popular within the hip crowd), even if he is not being trollish and is providing arguments about it.

In issues where most HN people agree, you should not dissent, because we have already reached the absolute enlightenment and correct opinion on things such as "sexism". No need for discussion or argumentation any more on this front, except to agree with each other.

I propose we call those "hell-banning" provoking arguments, "thought crimes".

Which reminds me of the 3rd most popular article on HN today:

"Free speech is dying in the Western world. While most people still enjoy considerable freedom of expression, this right, once a near-absolute, has become less defined and less dependable for those espousing controversial social, political or religious views. The decline of free speech has come not from any single blow but rather from thousands of paper cuts of well-intentioned exceptions designed to maintain social harmony."

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=luriel the same guy? He was fairly active in all recent discussions about Go. What happened to him?

Here's hoping he died of old age surrounded by his loved ones after having lived a rich life.

Somehow in what he liked about Japan I find it unlikely he was of "old age" but maybe I am wrong.

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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post #14
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like all public communication from uriel stopped about one year ago. Any idea what happened?

Enable the `showdead` option. He was hellbanned for voicing a dissenting opinion in a thread about sexism.

Who decides ultimately who is hellbanned or not ?

Re: (l)uriel has passed away

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enable the `showdead` option. He was hellbanned for voicing a dissenting opinion in a thread about sexism.

Yes, because "free speech" is nice and all, but there are some opinions that you should not have, even on a liberal place like Hacker News. One should not be allowed to divert from popular opinion (be it popular in society in general, in some conservative circle, or merely popular within the hip crowd), even if he is not being trollish and is providing arguments about it. In issues where most HN people agree, you sho…

Hellbanning is necessary to keep the trolls out. The problem is, HN's hellbans are really clunky, especially given how pg practically invented spam filters. You'd think there'd be some kind of bayesian predictor on whether a poster is a troll, and modding them troll would simply increase the probability that their posts would be DOAd.
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