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Post by croon »

oceansky wrote: post #214
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #212

Enjoy the outrage while it lasts. Soon Americans being shot in the face by ICE and framed as terrorists will be as common and accepted as the President talking about invading Canada and Greenland, or launching billion dollar shitcoins, talking about his love letters to dictators, insulting soldiers who died in combat, violent riots overturning elections or openly mocking disabled people etc. etc. etc. You'll see peop…

I wanted you to be wrong so much, but that's likely the most probable scenario. Maybe 50 years from now "everyone will always have been against this", but even that's a stretch.

I've already lived through this with Bush, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, and various at the time justifications and later revisions. Most vocal Trump supporters hate Bush and the Iraq war now, but it would interesting to see how consistent their story is on Santa's list/their cosmic audit records.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by hypeatei »

DustinEchoes wrote: post #24
hypeatei wrote: post #18

DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

> DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism" I agree, probably not in the way she intended though.

Every accusation is a confession with MAGAts.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by hypeatei »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #86
hypeatei wrote: post #18

DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

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> There are much more serious crimes being committed by the US the world over

Yeah, I've criticized those too. What's your point? Do you think I really saw this event and just now decided that Nuremburg-style trials would be in order?

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Post by hypeatei »

therobots927 wrote: post #153
cmurf wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Got it. So it’s not “fascism” until its past the point of no return. Just like how the plane hasn’t crashed until it hits the ground, even if we’re 2000 feet off the ground and we were at 25000 feet 2 minutes ago. Thanks for the brilliant insight.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45349597

Isn't this a delightful Catch-22.

If you forewarn about a developing Fascist movement, you're simply taking away the meaning from the word until it's too late and the Fascists take power.

You cannot call anything Fascist, for there may be something more Fascist that may need the power of the word.

But ah! We couldn't call out their fledgling movement full of dog whistles and double speak so no one was aware enough to stop them as a fledgling movement!

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by swagmoney69 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #65
hypeatei wrote: post #18

DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.

Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. That's official government policy now. It's worth taking a few minutes to look at that whole page, it's straight 1984 type revisionism. https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6/

Wow this makes me sick

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Post by tim333 »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #212

Enjoy the outrage while it lasts. Soon Americans being shot in the face by ICE and framed as terrorists will be as common and accepted as the President talking about invading Canada and Greenland, or launching billion dollar shitcoins, talking about his love letters to dictators, insulting soldiers who died in combat, violent riots overturning elections or openly mocking disabled people etc. etc. etc. You'll see peop…

The things you talk of are either legal such as insulting people, or failed such as riots trying to overturn an election. This is different.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by goku12 »

lawn wrote: post #172
cmurf wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Don't be so sure that it hasn't reached that level yet. The Nazis got into power the same way this administration did, and they did the same that this administration is doing right now - demolish the constitutional safeguards and institutions. And if the missing ingredient is the concentration camps or gulags, their civilian population were oblivious about it too, until much later. ICE has arrested so many people whose current whereabouts are not known. Any idea what's happening to them? Also, how many people are dying due to the anti-social policies like cutting down meal plans and medicaid plans?

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by mrtksn »

tim333 wrote: post #227
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #212

Enjoy the outrage while it lasts. Soon Americans being shot in the face by ICE and framed as terrorists will be as common and accepted as the President talking about invading Canada and Greenland, or launching billion dollar shitcoins, talking about his love letters to dictators, insulting soldiers who died in combat, violent riots overturning elections or openly mocking disabled people etc. etc. etc. You'll see peop…

The things you talk of are either legal such as insulting people, or failed such as riots trying to overturn an election. This is different.

Lots of convicted criminals were pardoned already. People with connection to January 6 United States Capitol attack are all pardoned, some got promoted. There's something going on with Ghislaine Maxwell's situation too. US just abducted the president of a sovereign country and international law no longer means anything too. The president himself is also a convict. He is also implicated with many sexual assaults(allegations at this stage)

What exactly makes you think that this time is different? I just saw a clip from Fox, justifying the killing of this woman because she had pronouns on her profile.

Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

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Post by asacrowflies »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #148
HaZeust wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"What are you gonna do about it?" Spare me. I have my non-negotiables for when action is needed. Do you?

If you are asking me, it's pretty clear an "action" is already needed. I would never take "action" personally though.

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