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Parental controls aren't for parents

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Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Post by BizarroLand »

UqWBcuFx6NV4r wrote: post #403
BizarroLand wrote: post #345

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I was against mandatory seatbelt laws at first because I disliked the intrusion. That was it. My entire argument was (and I emphasize WAS) that I didn't like no gubment tell me what to do. If I wanted to be a damn fool and kill myself why would they care? It's a stupid act to try to outlaw stupidity. Then I found out that seatbelt laws are actually about decreasing the financial burden of underinsured accident victim…

I’d strongly encourage you to spend an iota of time outside the US.

I'd strongly encourage you to cease assuming you know anything about someone outside of what is expressly listed to you.

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Post by selectively »

sjducb wrote: post #440
selectively wrote: post #235

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Heroin is addictive. Physical compulsion is addiction. What you are talking about is not addiction. It shares some elements, but no one is breaking into cars so they can scroll Instagram.

They are lying and stealing from their parents to “scroll instagram”

And the parents feel entitled to the truth...why? Children are not property.

What specifically do you mean by 'stealing'?

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Post by selectively »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #456
sjducb wrote: post #440

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They are lying and stealing from their parents to “scroll instagram”

Exactly. And what worries me is that they are essentially greasing the groove for these synapses, growing the neural network around deception and dishonesty. If they get into gambling in 5 years or so and happen to have a partner, they will already be somewhat adapted and practiced in hiding this activity quite effectively rather than seeking and accepting help. It's worrying. It's all foundational to very self-destr…

This is pseudo-intellectual nonsense - we are strangers to ourselves, we do not truly know how the mind works.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Post by sjducb »

selectively wrote: post #473
sjducb wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are lying and stealing from their parents to “scroll instagram”

And the parents feel entitled to the truth...why? Children are not property. What specifically do you mean by 'stealing'?

From the original comment

> lied and deceived extensively to gain access to devices, and repeatedly sacrificed relationships and trust for more screen time

It’s not about truth, it’s about lying to gain access to devices. Lying to gain access is a type of theft therefore stealing.

Re: Parental controls aren't for parents

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Post by selectively »

sjducb wrote: post #475
selectively wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the parents feel entitled to the truth...why? Children are not property. What specifically do you mean by 'stealing'?

From the original comment > lied and deceived extensively to gain access to devices, and repeatedly sacrificed relationships and trust for more screen time It’s not about truth, it’s about lying to gain access to devices. Lying to gain access is a type of theft therefore stealing.

I disagree with that analysis. It strikes me that a parent is denying a child access to something that the vast majority of other children have access to while that child is forced to live under a structure that prevents them from generating enough income to obtain their own device independently.

As that entire structure is illegitimate, the actions of the child are understandable.

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