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Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The scariest thing to me is that you can see which folks are either all in on the regime or working overtime to push out propaganda. Because we have video of the incident from multiple angles and the context really is just that an ICE agent outright murdered someone.
Well that’s been the republican strategy for decades now. They only succeed by lying. The good news is that the country is still split pretty evenly 50/50. I don’t know German history very well but I don’t remember hearing that non-Nazis were loudly opposing the Nazis. Time will tell how this all shakes out but I’m mentally preparing myself for the worst case scenario.
Nazis had street fights with socialists and communists for years. They were the first to be purged together with homosexuals, transvestites, handicapped, etc.
Media were largely acting like our current media, woefully ineffective and passive reporting on right wing violence. Hitler called then lugenpresse, now its fake news.
Resistance continued after that but not in the open, can be seen in the large number of assassination attempts.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#23There's currently video circulating of the incident so be aware on social media. Here's the facts as I currently know: * The woman shot and killed was a bystander, an American citizen * The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist
> The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist Don't try to bend the facts while there's literal video of the confrontation, as you yourself noted. She was being commanded to step out of the vehicle (My speculation: to be arrested) and refused to do so while accelerating the vehicle quickly with an officer stand…
Seems like the car was turning relatively slowly away from the ICE officer. At 00:18 in the video when you can hear the gunshots, he's not in the path of the vehicle. Even if he somehow thought the vehicle was heading towards him, it looks like he could have easily stepped back.
If a masked federal law enforcement officer can shoot someone with impunity in a situation that could have easily been avoided, then we are in a very dangerous place.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#24DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"... unbelievable. Everyone in the administration needs to be put on trial just like the Nazis in Nuremburg. Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot. She was a patriot hero for delaying election certification but people resisting ICE goons are domestic terrorists.
> DHS secretary is calling this "domestic terrorism"
I agree, probably not in the way she intended though.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist Don't try to bend the facts while there's literal video of the confrontation, as you yourself noted. She was being commanded to step out of the vehicle (My speculation: to be arrested) and refused to do so while accelerating the vehicle quickly with an officer stand…
She did none of the above. You didn't watch the video. Her tires were turned away from the officer and said officers were to the side of her vehicle, well and clear from any sort of harm.
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Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The video shows the ICE agent just straight up killing her unprovoked, against the narrative they're currently trying to setup that she was a terrorist Don't try to bend the facts while there's literal video of the confrontation, as you yourself noted. She was being commanded to step out of the vehicle (My speculation: to be arrested) and refused to do so while accelerating the vehicle quickly with an officer stand…
Seems like the car was turning relatively slowly away from the ICE officer. At 00:18 in the video when you can hear the gunshots, he's not in the path of the vehicle. Even if he somehow thought the vehicle was heading towards him, it looks like he could have easily stepped back. If a masked federal law enforcement officer can shoot someone with impunity in a situation that could have easily been avoided, then we are…
Not to be grim, it seems like the car suddenly accelerating was actually due to the being shot.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#27As a Canadian - south of the border terrifies me for what's coming next. Republicans have devolved into a NK style 'dear leader' group that is terrified of crossing Trump. 1930's Germany is here
Just count yourself lucky you don’t live here. Though I wouldn’t put it past Trump to invade Canada at some point but that will likely only happen if he assumes a dictatorship.
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#28NBC News reports that this was contrary to the officer's training and DHS' own policies.
> ICE officers are trained to never approach a vehicle from the front and instead to approach in a “tactical L” 90-degree angle to prevent injury or cross-fire, a senior Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News.
> Officers are also instructed not to shoot at a moving vehicle and only to use force if there is an immediate risk of serious injury or death, the official said.
> ICE officers are also instructed that firing at a vehicle will not make it stop moving in the direction of the officer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#29I think it’s beyond undeniable at this point that America has slid definitively into fascism. The parallels with 1930’s Germany are just too obvious to deny.
The scariest thing to me is that you can see which folks are either all in on the regime or working overtime to push out propaganda. Because we have video of the incident from multiple angles and the context really is just that an ICE agent outright murdered someone.
I mean, the comment above is now flagged and dead. Doesn't that mean the mods killed someone's comment solely for giving their opinion on the state of their own country?
EDIT: And [dead] removed now. Fascinating. I checked the unofficial guide on GitHub again to confirm my understanding:
https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flaggi...
> A [dead] submission (that does not also show [flagged]) is killed by a moderator or by the software. They will only be shown to users who have showdead enabled in their profile. A submission can simultaneously be [flagged] and [dead].
Re: Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
She did none of the above. You didn't watch the video. Her tires were turned away from the officer and said officers were to the side of her vehicle, well and clear from any sort of harm.
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Why would the officer move in front of a deadly weapon, is he stupid?