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The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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Hold on. In a few days we are going to find some narco-terrorists there as well.

or wmd, or poor locals need saving from chemical weapons attacks from their own govt. the funniest spin i heard was some clown trying to say that by taking greenland the us would be strengthening nato!

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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The events of the past 12 months, culminating in Venezuela and now Greenland, has made me reevaluate a lot of my beliefs about unimpeded competition between free agents (i.e. a free market) leading to the best and most peaceful outcomes. Clearly, a few participants becoming disproportionately powerful is a failure mode.

The way I've tried to reconcile my beliefs with what are clearly contradictory observations in the real world is: markets/competition are dependent on a substrate of social contract, and that substrate must precede market dynamics and must not be subject to them. When market dynamics leak into the foundation on which the market is built (the social contract, culture, law, norms), then the system starts moving toward raw competition, which is the same as war. Which is what I think what's happening now.

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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post #13

The events of the past 12 months, culminating in Venezuela and now Greenland, has made me reevaluate a lot of my beliefs about unimpeded competition between free agents (i.e. a free market) leading to the best and most peaceful outcomes. Clearly, a few participants becoming disproportionately powerful is a failure mode. The way I've tried to reconcile my beliefs with what are clearly contradictory observations in the…

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Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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Per Greenlandic laws, they own the mineral rights. They can license rights to others, and Denmark will also receive a portion of the profits.

Unfortunately, this is the model that American conservatives and billionaires hate. The idea that a country is entitled to their own resources is repulsive to them. This is also one of the things fundamental things where American vs Nordic mindsets are worlds apart.

It is arguably also the real reason why US attacked Venezuela.

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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Hold on. In a few days we are going to find some narco-terrorists there as well.

Honestly, for a "terrorist" he was treated quite nicely. You would think there would have been photos of him captured with a black eye or something but it is just a picture of him holding a water bottle. Then they made the vice-president the new president. I feel like the Prime Minister of Greenland won't be treated as nicely.

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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Hold on. In a few days we are going to find some narco-terrorists there as well.

or wmd, or poor locals need saving from chemical weapons attacks from their own govt. the funniest spin i heard was some clown trying to say that by taking greenland the us would be strengthening nato!

Speaking of wmd - there are probably secret nuclear missile bases buried under the ice...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Century

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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As a Swede I must confess I don't know much about Greenland. But if Denmark goes all-in on Greenland, you can bet the other Nordic countries will be involved too.

Not sure how this will play out. Really strange situation and as I said I don't even know how much Denmark cares about Greenland. Any Danes here that can tell us more?

Re: The mineral riches hiding under Greenland's ice

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post #13

The events of the past 12 months, culminating in Venezuela and now Greenland, has made me reevaluate a lot of my beliefs about unimpeded competition between free agents (i.e. a free market) leading to the best and most peaceful outcomes. Clearly, a few participants becoming disproportionately powerful is a failure mode. The way I've tried to reconcile my beliefs with what are clearly contradictory observations in the…

That's right. Entities must be acting as CITIZENS, first and foremost, bound by laws, norms, and shame.

Shame, the glue of civilization, as I call it, is quickly disappearing. The Nothing Matters LOL world is bound to decompose.

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