You really need to add a toggle for the effects, it makes it hard to read.
At least this one isn't presented as a back and forth between two furry characters
Dialogue has been a form of presentation forever. (See, Plato and most of literature)
Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is
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#82I like how the Unicode Consortium really doesn't want to accept any more flags, but you can still probably shoehorn them in if you're Apple or Google and you have a glyph sequence that is backwards compatible. One way of getting things done -- just do it. I knew the details behind this because Windows 10 didn't include font with the trans flag by default, and so it always rendered as flag + trans symbol. I eventually…
China really doesn't want to accept more flag emojis. For fairly obvious reasons.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost nobody in Taiwan would call it a "province of China" (some would if you redefine what China means, ie not PRC). But as usual standards bodies bend to whoever has power at the moment.
Legally speaking, Taiwan is a province of China according to both the PRC and ROC. Of course, they both claim that they are the "China" in question.
This is a clear tell that your knowledge of the situation is basically just Wikipedia plus media reporting. Approximately nobody in Taiwan views it that way. It is an obscure legal fiction of no relevance. It only persists because of a red line drawn by the PRC.
It’s kind of like how New Zealand is included as a province of Australia, technically, in their constitution.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legally speaking, Taiwan is a province of China according to both the PRC and ROC. Of course, they both claim that they are the "China" in question.
This is a clear tell that your knowledge of the situation is basically just Wikipedia plus media reporting. Approximately nobody in Taiwan views it that way. It is an obscure legal fiction of no relevance. It only persists because of a red line drawn by the PRC. It’s kind of like how New Zealand is included as a province of Australia, technically, in their constitution.
I didn't saw anything about how people view this? As you state, it's a legal fiction, but it's quite useful in numerous contexts like this, because it lets Unicode de facto include the Taiwan flag without actually including the Taiwan flag.
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#85Inspiring to see women getting into the far weeds of the unicode technical standard.
I have bad news for you.
Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is
#86Why are flags part of unicode? I thought the point of unicode was to add something for every glyph ever written in every text so they can be stored digitally as plain text. Flags are... not text. And who decides what sorts of flags and valid which aren't? I mean... we know who.. .but humour me. (didn't read the article because the website is deliberately unreadable. zero guilt)
One of the points of Unicode was to replace every other existing text encoding. This requires enough fidelity to be able to round-trip the text back and forth to them so that you can receive data in another text encoding, store it in Unicode, and then spit it back out in that same other text encoding without anything having changed.
The classic IBM PC text encoding ("codepage 437") already contains the card suits, gender symbols, and box drawing characters which are not text glyphs, so any "non-text symbols" battle was lost before it even started.
Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. My point still stands, you can already encode Taiwan's flag, so what is China allegedly objecting to?
There is no flag in the encoding. Instead, there are codepoints for each of ISO 3166-1's "Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1 Both the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China agree that there exists an entity called "Taiwan, Province of China" (TW). They have different views about what that entity's flag is (and many other t…
To clarify, 3166-1 is for countries, dependent territories (i.e. Guam), special areas (Taiwan, Hong Kong) i.e. TW gets a flag being in 3166-1 list but under UN resolution 2758, PRC gets to subsume TW as special area - "Taiwan (Province of China)". 3166-2 is for subdivisions (TW provinces, UNDER CHINA), i.e. all TW provinces are considered subdivisions of China/PRC. Same with HK. Unicode doesn't offer opinion in the sense the opinion is whatever UN recognize as countries, which will never include TW as long as PRC holds P5 veto.
In the meantime this arrangement works out since ROC constitution still legally asserts it's but part of One China polity, i.e. it doesn't matter what TWers think or DPP claims, or tries to legally engineer (additional articles /legal fiction limiting ROC political jurisdiction to "free area" of tw + islands). Until TW voters&politicians actually formally separates / declares independence, as in change ROC constitution by renounce claims on mainland, they'll lose 3166-1 designation because PRC gets to remove them, and won't get a new one because PRC veto. They'll lose their emojis (maybe iso codes, maybe domain depending on US/ICANN drama)... which TBH will be least of their worries.
Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legally speaking, Taiwan is a province of China according to both the PRC and ROC. Of course, they both claim that they are the "China" in question.
This is a clear tell that your knowledge of the situation is basically just Wikipedia plus media reporting. Approximately nobody in Taiwan views it that way. It is an obscure legal fiction of no relevance. It only persists because of a red line drawn by the PRC. It’s kind of like how New Zealand is included as a province of Australia, technically, in their constitution.
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#90I wish they stuck to languages only, instead of branching out into modern hieroglyphics. There are enough forces hacking away at literacy as it is. Flags are particularly wasteful, given that nations and movements can be highly ephemeral.
You'll be happy to learn that Unicode does not have one codepoint per national flag. It has 26 codepoints that form a special alphabet that two-letter country codes can be written with, and those are conventionally rendered as national flags.
I could give a shit about codepoints. Multilingual text is hard enough as it is. The icons-with-combiners were an unnecessary complication. The site we are commenting on rejects them, and rightly so.