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Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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There needs to be a moratorium on it, at least for a while.

Why?

Because the excesses are well documented and the proponents of it are constantly disingenuous about the issues that make it widely hated everywhere except in SV and in C-suites. It's at risk of being eliminated completely because those who abuse the system are spoiled brats that melt down over any hint of reform. When reform isn't possible, elimination becomes the only choice to make the excesses stop. Pretending not to understand this only makes it that much more likely that it will be eliminated entirely. The time for getting away with playing dumb is long gone. All it accomplishes is making the program even more hated.

The temporary program from three decades ago to bring in some extra help until the industry could ramp up training programs to develop domestic talent isn't temporary after three decades and the industry has made clear as long as it exists, there will be no honest attempts at developing talent instead of going for the lowest cost global source. All of the above will of course fall on deaf ears, with all the usual intellectually dishonest deflections and outright lies being brandied about. This once again guarantees that reform will be impossible and elimination the only solution.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Rampant abuse, fraud, nepotistic hiring combined with record high tech unemployment to start.

There is little reason to believe that low hiring will be improved in any significant amount by removal of the H1B pool.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Rampant abuse, fraud, nepotistic hiring combined with record high tech unemployment to start.

As Upton Sinclair said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

There is nothing you can post that will change this. The people openly abusing the intent of the program are growing too wealthy for them to even pretend to understand the negative effects. Don't expect them to accept there ever being any consequences for themselves for what they have done. Cutting them off cold turkey and enforcing the laws they've been breaking is the type of ice water shock they need to come back down to reality.

Re: Bill to Eliminate H-1B Visa Program Introduced in Congress

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There needs to be a moratorium on it, at least for a while.

Why?

no OP, but I can answer one way:

the US has very many visa programs, including half a dozen to a dozen work visa programs

this one particular visa program is politically radioactive, as if it is the only work visa program, and it doesn't accomplish its stated goals in hardly any way

until that can be settled I think and the program ironed out, it should be hampered to closed off, a moratorium

I would like to see the H1B program used to its original (and still codified) standards - highly in demand professionals that couldn't be sourced in the US so easily and are exceptional. The minimum wage for what such a professional would be paid was set in the 1980s, to $60,000 for someone with a master's degree, when it was exception. This minimum would be around $156,000/yr today. Okay, let's do that, that makes sense

if its politically radioactive to even just suggest that, all the more reason for a moratorium on that program, to me

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