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Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by gnabgib »

bawolff wrote: post #48
octoberfranklin wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China really doesn't want to accept more flag emojis. For fairly obvious reasons.

I dont really think that makes sense as Taiwan flag is already there.

There are no country flags in UTF. The flag you're seeing is the interpretation of a 2 character ISO country code by your OS.

> Although they can be displayed as Roman letters, it is intended that implementations may choose to display them in other ways, such as by using national flags. The Unicode FAQ indicates that this mechanism should be used and that symbols for national flags will not be directly encoded. This allows the Unicode consortium to avoid any issues surrounding which countries to include (and, de facto, recognize), instead leaving it entirely to the system implementation as to which flags to include (see: partially recognized state).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_indicator_symbol

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by seabass-labrax »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #45
F3nd0 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Furries have an emoji?

I'm not aware of any single furry emoji, but I've noticed a lot of furry communities on the Fediverse using custom (non-Unicode) emoji packs; see [1] for how that might work. Also an example of the feature in use[2].

[1]: https://misskey-hub.net/en/docs/for-users/features/custom-em...

[2]: https://thegayagenda.fans/notes/ah5imm41r1ru05a7

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by bawolff »

gnabgib wrote: post #51
bawolff wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont really think that makes sense as Taiwan flag is already there.

There are no country flags in UTF. The flag you're seeing is the interpretation of a 2 character ISO country code by your OS. > Although they can be displayed as Roman letters, it is intended that implementations may choose to display them in other ways, such as by using national flags. The Unicode FAQ indicates that this mechanism should be used and that symbols for national flags will not be directly encoded. This…

Sure. My point still stands, you can already encode Taiwan's flag, so what is China allegedly objecting to?

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by decimalenough »

bawolff wrote: post #53
gnabgib wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no country flags in UTF. The flag you're seeing is the interpretation of a 2 character ISO country code by your OS. > Although they can be displayed as Roman letters, it is intended that implementations may choose to display them in other ways, such as by using national flags. The Unicode FAQ indicates that this mechanism should be used and that symbols for national flags will not be directly encoded. This…

Sure. My point still stands, you can already encode Taiwan's flag, so what is China allegedly objecting to?

There is no flag in the encoding. Instead, there are codepoints for each of ISO 3166-1's "Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1

Both the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China agree that there exists an entity called "Taiwan, Province of China" (TW). They have different views about what that entity's flag is (and many other things about that entity), but Unicode doesn't offer any opinions on that.

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by zamadatix »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #43
aizk wrote: post #17

You really need to add a toggle for the effects, it makes it hard to read.

Turning off javascript gets rid of the crazy.

And reading mode can be a good option too. Particularly if it's more about the styling/contrast.

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

krautburglar wrote: post #50

I wish they stuck to languages only, instead of branching out into modern hieroglyphics. There are enough forces hacking away at literacy as it is. Flags are particularly wasteful, given that nations and movements can be highly ephemeral.

You'll be happy to learn that Unicode does not have one codepoint per national flag. It has 26 codepoints that form a special alphabet that two-letter country codes can be written with, and those are conventionally rendered as national flags.

Re: Why the trans flag emoji is the 5-codepoint sequence it is

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Post by telotortium »

I hate to be rude, but I found the writing quite difficult to follow in its technical aspects, and the pink and black glitter formatting was the last straw. I ended up dumping it into ChatGPT to rewrite the technical content in a form that’s easier to follow, in the hopes of elevating the discussion - I hope I don’t have to do this often on HN, but the technical story was interesting enough that it’s worth rescuing: https://gist.github.com/telotortium/58fe0c16f03455721420b768...
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