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All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by superkuh »

This headline does not match the article at all. It claims all AI videos are harmful then immeidately goes on to throw this claim out and say old confused people might be fooled by the videos. This is a very narrow subset of AI videos.

It's not just a pedantic issue. Making these kinds of extremely bold and all covering claims is par for the course for those who want to find and exploit attention from others for profit. If that's not what the author is doing I think the most charitable interpretation I can come up with is that they just have no experience with AI videos and are going off sensational press stories.

They should buy an nvidia 3060 12GB ($200~ second hand) and try out wan2.2 on their home computer. It's really fun to be able to make these kind of videos on a whim. And they'll get some real lived experience with the subject.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by cons0le »

badsectoracula wrote: post #16

99% of everything is bad, so that unsurprisingly includes AI videos. But i've seen several good videos made using AI, including pretty much everything NeuralViz[0] on YouTube makes, but also some that have been posted in older comments here in HN. Igorrr's ADHD music video[1] was also made using AI and fit the music perfectly. The common aspect with these "good" uses though is that they do not let the AI do 99% of th…

I'm ashamed to admit that this made me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJllhkPqixM

I would be alright with making these more expensive to make though, so they don't overrun youtube. Also i'm sure the person that made this had to do a lot of work. It wasn't just a few prompts

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by yakattak »

simianwords wrote: post #42
chrsw wrote: post #15

AI generated videos are being used in more and more ads. To cut costs I’m sure. The result is that ads that were just annoying are now terrible and jarring. When I hear talk about AI risks I mostly hear things like runaway super intelligence doing whatever it wants and leaving humanity in the lurch. But what about more realistic concerns, like accelerating the race to the bottom by cheaply and poorly ripping off othe…

i don't get this "race to the bottom", "to cut costs".. like isn't that a good thing? your things will get cheaper if the cost required to market them reduces.

Wake me up when my things get cheaper from cutting costs in the process.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

ggrantrowberry wrote: post #59
pelotron wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved in a conversation about cheating in video games the other day, and the topic shifted to AI use in music. Someone said, "using AI is like using an aimbot for music." I absolutely love that comparison since it highlights the shortcut past creativity/skill to get a computerized best result while also associating it with blatant cheating. The "enables creativity" argument is ironic since the root of the wo…

I disagree. The point of playing a shooter game is to have fun and be competitive while abiding by the rules of the game. Using aimbot is circumventing the whole purpose. The purpose of making music is to make music. So why does it matter what tool you use to do it? Because tools like Logic or Garageband can create lots of sounds for you is that removing creativity? Really shouldn’t music be recorded with a live band…

> Turns out it also requires a lot of skill to use it to get something good.

I agree. I don't like blaming/crediting a tool, for how it is used.

Some tools may be too dangerous for "just anyone" to use, and there may be justification in restricting access, but I'm not sure the tools should always be banned.

I was just talking about this, with a friend who leans conservative (but not nuttily so). He was telling me about watching all these shows about folks living north of the Arctic Circle, and how everyone walks around with guns, because polar bears look at us as walking snacks. In those cases, the gun is an absolutely necessary tool, and no one even thinks twice about it.

Not so, New York City.

But it would be a life-endangering mistake for someone in NYC to dictate to an Alaskan Inuit, that they can't carry a gun, and it might be a life-endangering mistake for an Alaskan to insist that everyone in NYC walk around with a gun (I won't get into the political arguments, there, be draggones).

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by tracker1 »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

It's both... I think it can cut both ways... I was largely on your side, as most of the AI stuff I've seen is just annoying more than anything. Then the "Star Wars: Beggar's Canyon" video completely changed my mind. The voice generation is clear and inflection appropriate... the cuts, sequence, and overall effects are clearly put together in a consistent way.

I can only imagine how much work that video was, but is really the first thing I've seen as AI video that gives me hope... and obviously a work of passion and a lot of effort to get such a great final result.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by miltonlost »

tracker1 wrote: post #107

Not sure how much of this is AI vs other techniques, though it's definitely AI as part of the toolset. But I think the result speaks for itself, it's absolutely impressive the work that has come out. I can only say, that the work that went into this video is definitely real, and I'm happy to see more of this, as opposed to "AI Slop" that we're mostly seeing so far. https://youtu.be/SGJC4Hnz3m0?si=J_8gsXEx4-cL3Mc9

I wonder how Mark Hammill likes that they reused his likeness without permission. Seems emblematic of the larger problems with AI stealing whatever. Very ghoulish..

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by miltonlost »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

I wonder if people also are like "CHatgpt, write me a poem about love" and then think "hey, i wrote this poem!! I'm a poet!!!"

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by deadbabe »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

No it isn’t.

There is a lot of content whose final value ultimately doesn’t justify the time that would be spent on creating it. Worse, there is sometimes only a specific window of time where a content has entertainment value and it quickly drops off after you leave that window.

For example, someone recently created an entire anime style video of the United States invading Venezuela and capturing Maduro. It came out awesome! But… to make a similar quality video by hand would have easily taken a team of humans several months at best. By then, the news cycle would have moved on, and the delivered video would have even less value being watched so distant from the event that inspired it. People wouldn’t care anymore, and it wouldn’t have as much impact.

AI is the perfect solution for delivering such a video exactly when you need it. To me, this is one of the more acceptable uses of AI, to make fun throwaway content that you just laugh about for a few moments and then move on with your life. Having a human dedicate a large amount of their time to make such videos would be sad, and it’s better if they preserve their effort for more serious artistic works that are timeless in their value.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by SoftTalker »

WackyFighter wrote: post #91
vanviegen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Under your logic someone playing a CD is a musician. I'm exaggerating a bit to make the point that the amount of human creativity put into a work of art is not binary. Just pasting a rehashed joke as a genAI video prompt is not much of a creative process.

> Under your logic someone playing a CD is a musician. No. That isn't my logic at all. > Just pasting a rehashed joke as a genAI video prompt is not much of a creative process. That isn't what is happening. What people are doing is taking people from different online streaming shows, making new content based on jokes made on those show and turning them into music videos, which are usually a cover of a well known song…

Any time something is made easier and you get more of it, it becomes worth less.

There might be a claim that there is still some human creativity involved, maybe. But it's sort of like amateurs at an open mic night telling memorized jokes that they didn't write compared to a comedian who has spent thousands of hours perfecting stories, jokes, punch lines, timing, and phrasing.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by simianwords »

andyfilms1 wrote: post #71
simianwords wrote: post #18

I have an idea for a movie. Its kind of an epic idea - more about the characters, story and the feeling. I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. AI has given me the opportunity to do it. I just have to keep prompting to get the exact feeling and I can share my idea. I don't like these curmudgeonly takes.. I'm sure this "All AI Videos Are Harmful" take will age just like how "All vide…

While I appreciate your positive experience, if you were unable to write, storyboard, and communicate your idea before AI--than AI is not going to be "the thing" that suddenly turns you into a filmmaker. You're writing anyway, you just call it prompting. If you feel that the AI is giving you back more than what you're putting in with that writing, you have to ask yourself who's vision the result really is.

Would you say the same thing for cartoonists? Don’t call it film making, call it something else. You are just drawing.

Your video camera is also giving you more than what you put in it.

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