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All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by WackyFighter »

vanviegen wrote: post #69
WackyFighter wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry that isn't true. Lots of smaller communities online, especially around small streamers make small meme style videos. Usually these are mocking someone doing something dumb online, or jokes/memes about the show etc. These are similar to parody videos online that were hugely popular on YouTube back in the early 2010s. People did do this before AI. Usually cutting people faces out and sticking them on actors faces…

Under your logic someone playing a CD is a musician. I'm exaggerating a bit to make the point that the amount of human creativity put into a work of art is not binary. Just pasting a rehashed joke as a genAI video prompt is not much of a creative process.

> Under your logic someone playing a CD is a musician.

No. That isn't my logic at all.

> Just pasting a rehashed joke as a genAI video prompt is not much of a creative process.

That isn't what is happening. What people are doing is taking people from different online streaming shows, making new content based on jokes made on those show and turning them into music videos, which are usually a cover of a well known song.

People have been doing this online without AI for quite a while. Usually this was with various music software. All AI does, it make this process easier.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by lukan »

pelotron wrote: post #21
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

I was involved in a conversation about cheating in video games the other day, and the topic shifted to AI use in music. Someone said, "using AI is like using an aimbot for music." I absolutely love that comparison since it highlights the shortcut past creativity/skill to get a computerized best result while also associating it with blatant cheating. The "enables creativity" argument is ironic since the root of the wo…

The purpose of music is (usually) to touch people emotionally. If it works, it works. Doesn't matter how it was made. There is no cheating when there is feeling.

Generic AI music so far does not touch me. I might tolerate it in the background, but I know there is great music being made with the help of AI. (Which is different from letting the AI do it all)

An aimbot in competive playing is indeed cheating and sucks the fun out for others. But if you have fun with single player aimbots, why not. (I know some games integrated autoaim and they can still be fun)

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by Keyframe »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #13
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

Now do hand drawn cartoons vs 3d rendered cartoons. Is Pixar Incredibles where a computer algorithm made decisions about exact colors worse than Disney Cinderella where it was hand-drawn animation?

This isn't even remotely comparable.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by pembrook »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

> 99% of the “creativity” is done by the AI…it's taken from other people's (creative) work.

Yes, and prior to AI, 99% of creativity was also taken from other peoples work. This is how creativity works. Man has no ideas in a vacuum.

As humans we take influences in from what we’ve seen and when we “create” things we’re simply combining things together, resulting in output falling somewhere on the spectrum from a 1:1 copy to somewhat novel.

If you can’t spot the influences in a painting or song or piece of graphic design, it’s simply because you aren’t deeply familiar with prior works in the field at the time.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by beezlebroxxxxxx »

WackyFighter wrote: post #52
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

Sorry that isn't true. Lots of smaller communities online, especially around small streamers make small meme style videos. Usually these are mocking someone doing something dumb online, or jokes/memes about the show etc. These are similar to parody videos online that were hugely popular on YouTube back in the early 2010s. People did do this before AI. Usually cutting people faces out and sticking them on actors faces…

Using samples is not the same as AI or creating AI videos. Nor is using photoshop or an editing suite.

"Creating" AI art is analogous to commissioning a work of art from someone else.

Person A put in a request to person B, pers. A receives a mockup or a draft from pers. B, pers. A and B might engage in convos to refine the work, pers. B delivers the final product to pers. A. AI "artists" are person A in that scenario.

Sampling, like FatboySlim, or many other producers, is clearly not person A in that scenario. They're exerting intentional, direct, creative control. Creating AI art is mediated in a way that is far more indirect and stochastic. The creative inputs in AI art is more directly the text in the prompt rather than the output. Editing the output afterwards is creative input afterwards, though. However, sign a work you commissioned from someone else as your own and people will probably roll their eyes, which I think describes most reactions to AI videos.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by andyfilms1 »

ggrantrowberry wrote: post #59
pelotron wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved in a conversation about cheating in video games the other day, and the topic shifted to AI use in music. Someone said, "using AI is like using an aimbot for music." I absolutely love that comparison since it highlights the shortcut past creativity/skill to get a computerized best result while also associating it with blatant cheating. The "enables creativity" argument is ironic since the root of the wo…

I disagree. The point of playing a shooter game is to have fun and be competitive while abiding by the rules of the game. Using aimbot is circumventing the whole purpose. The purpose of making music is to make music. So why does it matter what tool you use to do it? Because tools like Logic or Garageband can create lots of sounds for you is that removing creativity? Really shouldn’t music be recorded with a live band…

The purpose of eating is to ingest nutrients, but that's not why most chefs enjoy cooking, or why people pay more for nicer meals.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by arbitrary_name »

ramoz wrote: post #84
Mouvelie wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you are given someone else vision of anything you want. If you are being 100 % honest with yourself, the output of a prompt would never be exactly what you imagined. This is where YOUR creativity dies. Yes, you create, but you create through the filter of someone else. If this ceiling of creativity is enough for you, good. You will never break through it anyway, by design.

idk we are sure getting close and this stuff isnt even good yet. 1 example - I nearly one-shotted all the images for my blog https://backnotprop.com/blog and i felt creatively empowered as they came out better than I imagined (but aligned in general design)

They are disconnected, bland, and made me feel that if you rely that heavily on generic AI images, your writing can't be much better.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by dangus »

bicepjai wrote: post #81
WackyFighter wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry that isn't true. Lots of smaller communities online, especially around small streamers make small meme style videos. Usually these are mocking someone doing something dumb online, or jokes/memes about the show etc. These are similar to parody videos online that were hugely popular on YouTube back in the early 2010s. People did do this before AI. Usually cutting people faces out and sticking them on actors faces…

I have another example. Web development. Dealing with css and designing exact objects or elements in websites was a pain meaning needs technical expertise, time and good idea to be expressed. LLMs made it easier. Still the website created by a dilettante can never compete with one from a creative mind.

Can’t compete in what way? Popularity? Views? Revenue? Profitability? Reader satisfaction?

Sometimes a website that looks like shit does its job better than one that is finely crafted.

Berkshire Hathaway has a text only website with no CSS at all.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by umvi »

> manipulating vulnerable viewers

it always rubs me the wrong way when people infantilize the masses. The "vulnerable" masses already already partake in lots of harmful substances and practices (tobacco, alcohol, drugs, gambling/lotto), AI videos are just another potential pitfall people will need to learn to be wary of.

Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by djeastm »

simianwords wrote: post #42
chrsw wrote: post #15

AI generated videos are being used in more and more ads. To cut costs I’m sure. The result is that ads that were just annoying are now terrible and jarring. When I hear talk about AI risks I mostly hear things like runaway super intelligence doing whatever it wants and leaving humanity in the lurch. But what about more realistic concerns, like accelerating the race to the bottom by cheaply and poorly ripping off othe…

i don't get this "race to the bottom", "to cut costs".. like isn't that a good thing? your things will get cheaper if the cost required to market them reduces.

>your things will get cheaper if the cost required to market them reduces.

One could imagine that once every company in a market uses AI videos to reduce said costs they will then have to spend even more to stand out from the other marketers, leaving us all back where we started, but with a lot of crappy AI videos to wade through.

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