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All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by pelotron »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

I was involved in a conversation about cheating in video games the other day, and the topic shifted to AI use in music. Someone said, "using AI is like using an aimbot for music." I absolutely love that comparison since it highlights the shortcut past creativity/skill to get a computerized best result while also associating it with blatant cheating.

The "enables creativity" argument is ironic since the root of the word is "create" and AI users are literally removing the "create" step from their production process.

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Post by miltonlost »

simianwords wrote: post #18

I have an idea for a movie. Its kind of an epic idea - more about the characters, story and the feeling. I want to get the idea across as close as possible to what is in my head. AI has given me the opportunity to do it. I just have to keep prompting to get the exact feeling and I can share my idea. I don't like these curmudgeonly takes.. I'm sure this "All AI Videos Are Harmful" take will age just like how "All vide…

Cool, but what about the rampant fraud portion of the article?

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Post by renewiltord »

I can’t seem to figure out a good prompt for these yet. But there are people doing clever things (short clips with first frame previous last frame, instructions on the image of first frame, etc.) and I hope that over time these get to become as good as image models have.

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Post by simmerup »

throwawayffffas wrote: post #14

> There's no easy solution to this crisis. Put down the phone, close that youtube, tik tok or whatever tab. Don't try to explain to your relatives which video is AI and which is not, explain to them that everything on the internet is bullshit and trolling, AI or not it does not matter it's all bullshit to sell ads. Tell them they are better off watching TV, even Fox news.

When mass voting patterns change because they’re being influenced by AI it will affect you

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Post by threethirtytwo »

i80and wrote: post #12
threethirtytwo wrote: post #9

This isn’t a crisis. The author is describing a good thing. When the day comes that the author can fulfill his dream that will not be a good day. And AI videos will be even more dangerous then.

The author is right that AI video is being used to propagandize and rot minds at scale in a way sort of unthinkable a couple years ago. Short-form video content wasn't good for us beforehand, but any balance has been fully upturned. (I think that's all intrinsic to genAI in a way the author doesn't want to confront, but there is a crisis)

Yeah but at least they are still (barely) discernible. Most young minds can still see the difference.

Wait a year and this may change.

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Post by waltbosz »

chrsw wrote: post #15

AI generated videos are being used in more and more ads. To cut costs I’m sure. The result is that ads that were just annoying are now terrible and jarring. When I hear talk about AI risks I mostly hear things like runaway super intelligence doing whatever it wants and leaving humanity in the lurch. But what about more realistic concerns, like accelerating the race to the bottom by cheaply and poorly ripping off othe…

Last night, I deliberately paid attention to an ad because it had the disclaimer "images generated with AI". I was curious to see what the advertisers did with the technology. The ad featured a bunch of animals of different species driving cars around a city. It clearly had that AI uncanny valley that high budget 3D modeled CGI animals doesn't have. I thought about what it would have cost for a effects team to 3D model and render all those animals, and also wondered how many rendering attempts with the AI did it take to get good footage for the ad.

The ad felt sickening to look at, like a TV with smooth motion turned on. It's like my brain is rejecting the pictures that it sees because it doesn't match the patterns of motion that it has been trained to recognize. Or was it just regular motion sickness.

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Post by [deleted] »

fao_ wrote: post #10
palmotea wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's the point? If AGI is achieved, some of the "they" at the cutting edge get to become feudal lords over massive AI empires that don't need you in them.

I'm not sure why this is downvoted because this is very literally the motivating reasoning, see: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neoreactionary_movement

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Re: All AI Videos Are Harmful (2025)

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Post by pyth0 »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #13
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #6

One of the arguments I keep seeing from people churning out AI video is that the tech is enabling people "creative freedom" that's been made possible now even without the technical know how. However, 99% of the the "creativity" from what I've seen is done by the AI (how it should look, where the cuts need to happen, the tone, color grading, etc). Which is to say, it's taken from other people's (creative) work. While…

Now do hand drawn cartoons vs 3d rendered cartoons. Is Pixar Incredibles where a computer algorithm made decisions about exact colors worse than Disney Cinderella where it was hand-drawn animation?

This feels like an incredibly disingenuous comparison and I suspect you know that. But just to play along, real artists had to design the character models, real filmmakers had to decide which shots to capture, real editors had to put that together to make a cohesive story. Also they almost certainly went through color grading after having completed the rendering, so the colors are certainly selected by humans to produce a nice looking composition.
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