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It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#291

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

It's Christmas, lighten up. I think the animation adds a glorious bit of irony: "look, here's a horribly distracting effect that is almost designed to make it difficult to read the article, and it's still not as egregious as Apple's Tahoe design!"

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #198

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

The audacity to critique Apple's use of icons (which is objectively justified critique, IMO) while having animated snowflakes falling over the text and images on the site is something on an entirely different level. Thank goodness for Firefox reader mode. That animation is so incredibly distracting.

In my opinion, I can be a worst UX expert in the world, and I still reserve the right to criticize bad UX elsewhere: the fact that you are a bad "creator" does not mean that you are a stupid "user".

Yes, it is a bit hypocritical, but you can look at the content of the message and judge it without judging the presentation of the message, even if it talks about usability of interfaces in computer software.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what happens when the people issuing the orders (assign an icon for every task) are not the ones doing the task. And the ones doing it have no say in how it's done. Being involved and in the loop is how great software is made. Otherwise you can just outsource and have tickets completed.

> This is what happens when the people issuing the orders (assign an icon for every task) are not the ones doing the task. No, this is what happens when the people in charge of UI design have no clue what they're doing.

In theory, the problems highlighted in the article would have become apparent shortly into the process of assigning an icon to every menu item. Forging ahead despite the impossibility of doing a good job on the task is a sign of orders being issued from top to bottom without feedback working its way from the bottom to the top.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #273

It's hard to justify Liquid Glass in general. The wastefulness of flat design (in terms of space) married with the visual excess of skeuomorphism, but without even providing any affordances (does the sidebar being raised give you any new information on how to use a sidebar? No). If you're a designer at a top 10 S&P 500 company making 6 figures, you owe it to yourself to have some love for your craft. If a PM tells yo…

Alan Dye ruined everything at Apple, no idea how he clung on for so long. You know he designed the horrible ios7 as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzjcVZXolc https://tjkelly.com/blog/ios-7-sucks/ And he also takes credit for the dynamic island. It is an assault on my senses to see everything constantly moving around on my screen. I have been working with Macs since 1995, but this year is my first using Pixel…

Really? Same guy? OUFF. What a track record...

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#297

I used to be a die hard UI perfectionist. I thought there were perfect UIs, and that you could go more or less away from or toward perfection with choices. But lately, over the past 5 or 10 years, it seems to me that perfection in UI is just as arbitrary and mutable as people's tastes and preferences. It's hard to admit it to myself, but I think my love for the early Mac OS and Windows 9x UIs was mere puppy love at f…

I fell in love with early macos as well, but it was the enormous amount of care they put into it that got me. Maybe it was actually the same thing for you, not puppy love.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the author went out of their way to prove they can make an even worse UI than Apple. I suspect they succeeded.

This is exactly my thoughts. If you are reading this, author, please either make the snowflakes less distracting or toggleable. They are a pain on mobile.

> author, please either make the snowflakes less distracting or toggleable

They already did, as the grandparent comment already explained:

>> TBF, you can turn it off by clicking on the snowflake icon in the top right corner.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #273

It's hard to justify Liquid Glass in general. The wastefulness of flat design (in terms of space) married with the visual excess of skeuomorphism, but without even providing any affordances (does the sidebar being raised give you any new information on how to use a sidebar? No). If you're a designer at a top 10 S&P 500 company making 6 figures, you owe it to yourself to have some love for your craft. If a PM tells yo…

Alan Dye ruined everything at Apple, no idea how he clung on for so long. You know he designed the horrible ios7 as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzjcVZXolc https://tjkelly.com/blog/ios-7-sucks/ And he also takes credit for the dynamic island. It is an assault on my senses to see everything constantly moving around on my screen. I have been working with Macs since 1995, but this year is my first using Pixel…

>Alan Dye ruined everything at Apple, no idea how he clung on for so long

Cook doesn't seem to a have any taste for product design, isn't he a logistics guy?

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#300
As a fan of pictograms in general and very much a visual learner, I don't mind Tahoe icons or menu icons in general. By default I look to those first and then the text, it works for me.

That said, Apple's Liquid Glass is really poor UI. It works okay on my Macbook but feel like it's basically broken a couple features of my second gen iPhone SE, which is kind of untenable imo. Apple also clearly seems to design for larger devices now, which I get but... am I any less of a customer because I use an older device? why should I be de-prioritized?

Lastly, speaking of UI/UX - this blog's website was really bad! Ironic that a blog on UI/UX would have bubbles floating down the screen interfering with text readability and no way to turn them off!

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