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It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by fragmede »

einsteinx2 wrote: post #182
teddy-smith wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just enshittification. Going to continue to get worse as time goes on. Even the hardware will go at some point I'm betting.

> It's just enshittification. That’s not what enshittification means. Somehow its usage has quickly devolved from a very specific pattern companies used to squeeze “value” out of their customers over time into just “something getting worse in any way” or even just “something I don’t like now but I did before” which is not at all the point.

Last time pointed that out here, Cory Doctorow himself popped up to tell me it's okay, we don't need to word police other people.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44776712

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by nkrisc »

pixelesque wrote: post #28
throwaway_ab wrote: post #8

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

It's very annoying, but you can turn it off (snowflake icon, although then you get a yellow background), and IMO the article content is worth reading.

The snowflake icon that disappears off-screen the instant you scroll down past the obnoxiously large header image to read the actual content?

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by ajam1507 »

flumpcakes wrote: post #65

It seems like Apple's hardware design is universally loved with much acclaim, why is their software getting progressively worse? It's not Microsoft-add-all-the-bloatware-and-adverts-we-can worse, but it's 20-year-old-operating-systems-were-better-designed worse. We're getting to a point where I think Linux windowing systems like KDE are better designed. And it seems that all they had to do was not change much over th…

There's plenty to criticize them for on the hardware front. Why design round edges on your macbook pro and then put cheese grater vent holes on the sides where you're most likely to pick it up? Same goes for the Apple TV remote.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by latexr »

finnlab wrote: post #98

I’ve always respected macOS for being the 'stable' choice for not-as-techy people. But recent versions feel like a mess. Running Tahoe on my 2019 Mac Pro (Yes the cheese grater one) has been surprisingly frustrating. Simple things are broken: Ableton couldn't even trigger a microphone permission prompt, forcing me to meddle with a SQLite database, which is definitely not meant for end users to touch, just to get it w…

Your Ableton and Logitech issues seem to be the same: screwed up access permissions. Not your fault, macOS has been sucking at it for a while. It’s not unheard of for System Settings to show you some app has some permissions, but in practice it doesn’t.

What usually works is fully resetting permissions for an app:

  tccutil reset All
To find the bundle ID for an app:

  mdls -raw -name kMDItemCFBundleIdentifier

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

> These are OS basics, these are foundational. Every app has them, and they are always in the same place. They shouldn’t look different!

This is the key point for me. I think I go further than the OP, though; I would almost force apps to use the stock menu items. Declare that your app has to save stuff, and the OS can take care of supplying a 'File -> Save' menu item, a Save toolbar icon, and a Save keyboard shortcut.

I guess the more 'liberal' way of doing this would be to make it so easy to do the above that you would really have to go very far out of your way to purposefully deliver a worse experience. But you're free to do that if you're so inclined.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by throwaway173738 »

hyperbovine wrote: post #178
juancn wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? UX in Linux is awful, there's no single desktop metaphor. You have hundreds of distros each with their quirks. There is no "Linux" other than the kernel. There's a lot more consistency in the Apple ecosystem. Don't get me started on the other crap with Linux distros: power management doesn't work, audio barely works, heck even though both Linux and MacOS use CUPS for printing, in MacOS it works way better.

I don't understand why this comment is downvoted, it is undeniably true.

Whereas on my laptop and my distro it works. And a lot of other people probably feel the same way. I use Linux at work and have never had issues with it in the last 6 years. Prior to that, yes.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by tatjam »

layer8 wrote: post #199
throwaway_ab wrote: post #8

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

At least there’s a button to turn it off. But yes, I agree.

Confusingly, because it stops the "particle spawning" but not the animation! At first I thought it just changed the background to orange.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

hyperbovine wrote: post #178
juancn wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? UX in Linux is awful, there's no single desktop metaphor. You have hundreds of distros each with their quirks. There is no "Linux" other than the kernel. There's a lot more consistency in the Apple ecosystem. Don't get me started on the other crap with Linux distros: power management doesn't work, audio barely works, heck even though both Linux and MacOS use CUPS for printing, in MacOS it works way better.

I don't understand why this comment is downvoted, it is undeniably true.

Often, when we don't understand something, asking questions helps us learn. Happy to answer any you might have, to help you understand.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by al_borland »

pixelesque wrote: post #28
throwaway_ab wrote: post #8

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

It's very annoying, but you can turn it off (snowflake icon, although then you get a yellow background), and IMO the article content is worth reading.

It takes over 10 seconds to turn off fully. I had to go back and try it after your comment, because I thought that button just turned the page yellow, which was worse than the blue.

I ended up using reader mode to read the page. The whole site design undermined the point being made. One of the first things mentioned is not to be distracting. Yet they went out of their way to make their own site distracting. "Do as I say, not as I do."

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