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It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#152
It looks like they made a decision to include icons for every menu item and the developers for each app had to come up with an icon association for all menu items. I’m sure they realized along the way that this was a bad idea, maybe it was too late.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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post #98

I’ve always respected macOS for being the 'stable' choice for not-as-techy people. But recent versions feel like a mess. Running Tahoe on my 2019 Mac Pro (Yes the cheese grater one) has been surprisingly frustrating. Simple things are broken: Ableton couldn't even trigger a microphone permission prompt, forcing me to meddle with a SQLite database, which is definitely not meant for end users to touch, just to get it w…

Yeah I'm hopeful that they spend the next software update atoning for their UI sins.

I remember being really excited for Liquid Glass, because it felt like a return to the good old days of Skeuomorphism, at least in some spirit. In reality, it was a botched delivery, I suspect for two reasons:

1. Trying to unify all of their design (in one year no less) against one style -- developed primarily on Apple Watch & the now defunct Vision Pro -- was a colossal undertaking.

2. There's so much goddamn software packed into each OS that you're going to inevitably be stuck with bloated menus. Imagine Apple releasing OS 27 this year and saying "we're stripping you down to the bare bones. It's going to feel like Snow Leopard, but we're going to give you customization menus to alter that experience." I would lose my mind with joy. I'd be so excited to be able to operate my fucking phone again.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#154
post #98

I’ve always respected macOS for being the 'stable' choice for not-as-techy people. But recent versions feel like a mess. Running Tahoe on my 2019 Mac Pro (Yes the cheese grater one) has been surprisingly frustrating. Simple things are broken: Ableton couldn't even trigger a microphone permission prompt, forcing me to meddle with a SQLite database, which is definitely not meant for end users to touch, just to get it w…

from what i've read on macrumors, Tahoe on the 2019 MP is quite messy. A lot of people complain about the UIs being sluggish.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#155

Reminder, you can turn off the animated snow effect with the snowflake icon at the top

Sure, if you don't mind having your eyeballs seared by the brightest orange on record.

At least he didn’t use the trick to make the background HDR bright.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#156

I never disliked an OS as much as I dislike what Apple is doing with MacOS (and iOS by extension). I've been with MacOS for 20 years, but I've switched at home to Linux full time 2 years ago and I don't regret it. At work I'm forced to be on MacOS. It's concerning how Apple doesn't care anymore about user needs, usability, design and consistency. Where it was the best OS in the past for me, it's not anymore. Other OS…

Nowadays AI can help with Linux. For example AI helped setup my bluetooth mouse and set up an action for each of the extra buttons.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#158

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

It's very annoying, but you can turn it off (snowflake icon, although then you get a yellow background), and IMO the article content is worth reading.

  > although then you get a yellow background
Yes, and this is arguably worse. I ended up using Immersive Reader mode in Edge.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#159

Interesting. The article starts with this: > Sequoia → Tahoe It’s bad And I look at the image... And I like it? I agree with the author that it could be better , but most of the icons (new, open recent, close, save, duplicate, print, share etc), do make it easier, faster and more pleasant for my brain to parse the menu vs no icons. Again, I don't disagree that you could do it better, I just disagree with the premise…

If you haven’t done so, I’d suggest reading that HIG. It is clear thinking, expressed well, and it stands the test of time.
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