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It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#72

Something on this website made my iPhone (16 pro) immediately begin warming up, become hot to the touch, and invoke screen-dimming throttling. I verified by exiting it and reentering, during which the pattern abated and then recurred. The snow? Something else?

You can turn the snow off in the toolbar.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#74

It's hard to justify snowflake animations on your website...

It's very annoying, but you can turn it off (snowflake icon, although then you get a yellow background), and IMO the article content is worth reading.

I literally didn't notice that the snowflake icon turned it off:

   1. I scrolled through the article getting more and more frustrated with the snow
   2. I scrolled all the way back to the top and saw the snowflake icon
   3. I clicked the snowflake, saw the hideous yellow, said WTF and clicked again to go back to blue
   4. **I never noticed** that the snowflake *does* stop the snow, but *only* stops *new* snow, so the existing snow continues to fall across the screen
   5. I clicked several other things, then came here to complain and saw this thread

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#77

Interesting. The article starts with this: > Sequoia → Tahoe It’s bad And I look at the image... And I like it? I agree with the author that it could be better , but most of the icons (new, open recent, close, save, duplicate, print, share etc), do make it easier, faster and more pleasant for my brain to parse the menu vs no icons. Again, I don't disagree that you could do it better, I just disagree with the premise…

I wouldn't take too much into a book about optimising database storage written for 90s-era hard disks and CPUs.

But a file menu is still a file menu, and save is still save. In fact it's remarkable how little that has changed since 1983.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#78

It's pretty wild how the best screenshot of a usable menu is from, like, Office 2000. What the hell have we been doing for the past 25 years?

Computers became a necessity. You have no choice but to own a computer, so there's no evolutionary pressure to prevent their enshittification.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#79
This is the second time in just a few weeks I see a post from some UX person complaining about how some major tech company doesn't "understand" design while themselves having a design that is absolutely abysmal. What made this person think that having gigantic snowflakes flying down a page serving only text and images would be a good idea?

_edit_: I'd also like to point out that I know it can be disabled, the question(s) I then have are 1) why is it enabled by default 2) black text on yellow background is yet another obvious mistake

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

#80

If there is ever a leaked insider story of how whatever Tahoe is supposed to be got cooked up and released that would be my read of the year.

I don't work or have ever worked at Apple, so I don't know the full details, but I heard the new design wasn't introduced until very late in the development process, and at a point in time where teams are supposed to focus on polish, not redesigns or introducing new features.

So not only did teams have to rush incroporating this new design, they also didn't get time to think things through and polish. It sounds like they didn't have time to push-back either, and so there was no feedback/iteration loop where they could work out with whomever is in charge of wider system design what works and what doesn't on what apps.

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