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Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by Expurple »

fn-mote wrote: post #165
brycewray wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is there any static site generator where you specify the version you use, and the launcher will simply run the old binary that you want? For Hugo, there is Hugo Version Manager (hvm)[0], a project maintained by Hugo contributor Joe Mooring. While the way it works isn't precisely what you described, it may come close enough. [0]: https://github.com/jmooring/hvm

I hate to say it, but even the existence of this tool is a danger sign. I say this as someone who uses Hugo and is regularly burned (singed) by breaking changes. Pinning your version is great until you trip across a bug (usually rendering, in my case) and need to upgrade to get rid of it. There goes a few hours. I won’t even mention the horror of needing a test suite to make sure the rendering of your old pages hasn’…

You don't need a test suite. Your website is the test suite. You can build it with an old version of Hugo, build it with a new version of Hugo, and then diff the output folders: https://home.expurple.me/posts/fearless-website-updates-with...

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by Expurple »

dijit wrote: post #3

I made the jump to Hugo too (from a managed service: svbtle) a long time ago, but I'll be really honest... I regret it. I decided to use an off-the-shelf theme, but it didn't quite meet the needs and I forked it; as it so happens Hugo breaks userland relatively often and a complex theme like the one I have requires a lot of maintenance. Like.. a lot . Now I can't really justify the time investment of fixing it so I j…

> advice: submit the binary you used to generate the site to source control.

Or use HVM and submit the .hvm file (which is just a text file with the Hugo version that you use)

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by andrewshadura »

1dom wrote: post #52

I think this is silly, and it's a hill I'm willing to die on. I wrote this in a comment yesterday, and Jeff has fully confirmed/vindicated this in his post: SSGs are good for static sites with no interactivity or feedback. If you want interactivity or feedback, someone (you or a 3rd party service provider) is going to have to run a server. If you're running a server anyway, it seems trivial to serve content dynamical…

I run an e-commerce website on Hugo. The only non-static part is a short Python function I run in a cloud to forward the orders to Stripe.

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by andrewshadura »

nunez wrote: post #80
1dom wrote: post #52

I think this is silly, and it's a hill I'm willing to die on. I wrote this in a comment yesterday, and Jeff has fully confirmed/vindicated this in his post: SSGs are good for static sites with no interactivity or feedback. If you want interactivity or feedback, someone (you or a 3rd party service provider) is going to have to run a server. If you're running a server anyway, it seems trivial to serve content dynamical…

But what about Disqus? Or that one that renders comments from GitHub Issues?

Disqus shows a lot of ads these days.

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by theshrike79 »

1dom wrote: post #52

I think this is silly, and it's a hill I'm willing to die on. I wrote this in a comment yesterday, and Jeff has fully confirmed/vindicated this in his post: SSGs are good for static sites with no interactivity or feedback. If you want interactivity or feedback, someone (you or a 3rd party service provider) is going to have to run a server. If you're running a server anyway, it seems trivial to serve content dynamical…

I have a vague memory that one of the largest commenting sites on the internet, 4chan, was basically statically generated.

Every time a comment was added, it just generated a full-ass static web page.

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by rcarmo »

susam wrote: post #34

A few years ago, I decided to migrate my personal website to a Common Lisp (CL) based static site generator that I wrote myself. In hindsight, it is one of the best decisions I have made for my website. It started out at around 850 lines of code and has gradually grown to roughly 1500 lines. It handles statically rendering blog posts, arbitrary pages, a guestbook, comment pages, tag listings, per tag RSS feeds, a con…

Ha. Well, https://taoofmac.com was ported to Hy (https://github.com/rcarmo/sushy) in a week, then I eventually rewrote that in plain Python to do the current static site generator —- so I completely get it.

I am now slowly rebuilding it in TypeScript/Bun and still finding a lot of LISP-isms, so it’s been a fun exercise and a reminder that we still don’t have a nice, fast, batteries-included LISP able to do HTML/XML transforms neatly (I tried Fennel, Julia, etc., and even added Markdown support to Joker over the years, but none of them felt quite right, and Babashka carries too much baggage).

If anyone knows about a good lightweight LISP/Scheme dialect that has baked in SQLite and HTML parsing support, can compile to native code and isn’t on https://taoofmac.com/space/dev/lisp, I’d love to know.

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by justinclift »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #31
dijit wrote: post #3

I made the jump to Hugo too (from a managed service: svbtle) a long time ago, but I'll be really honest... I regret it. I decided to use an off-the-shelf theme, but it didn't quite meet the needs and I forked it; as it so happens Hugo breaks userland relatively often and a complex theme like the one I have requires a lot of maintenance. Like.. a lot . Now I can't really justify the time investment of fixing it so I j…

I moved to a AI maintained custom site generator and it’s ideal for my uses. I have full control over everything and nothing breaks me.

When you say "AI maintained", what are you meaning?

Re: Jeffgeerling.com has been migrated to Hugo

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Post by justinclift »

dijit wrote: post #3

I made the jump to Hugo too (from a managed service: svbtle) a long time ago, but I'll be really honest... I regret it. I decided to use an off-the-shelf theme, but it didn't quite meet the needs and I forked it; as it so happens Hugo breaks userland relatively often and a complex theme like the one I have requires a lot of maintenance. Like.. a lot . Now I can't really justify the time investment of fixing it so I j…

> In theory I could use an old version of Hugo, but I have no idea when it broke, so how far do I go back?

Pretty sure the version of Hugo used to generate a site is included in metadata in the generated output.

If you have a copy of the site from when it last worked, then assuming my above memory is correct you should be able to get the exact version number from that. :)

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